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Old April 16th, 2017, 09:36 AM   #1
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red dot in rear sight pocket?

What is the consensus on mounting a red dot sight in the rear sight pocket of an M-14?

I'm usually not drawn towards battery powered optics but the concept of a small red dot sight mounted and usable without a cheek riser is interesting to me.

Pros: Fast target acquisition, light weight, doesn't increase the size of the rifle much at all.

Cons: battery powered, fragile, no backup sights.

Anybody have any experience using this kind of set up?

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Old April 16th, 2017, 09:40 AM   #2
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Somebody should invent a mount for the Trijicon RMR that has a Mini flip up Peep Behind it that way you would have backups if you needed them. Nothing I would use, as I prefer iron sights but it would be a cool concept.

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Old April 16th, 2017, 09:49 AM   #3
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The fast fire 3 has a vertical white line at the rear you could use as a point of reference if you could see the front sight at the same time. (Don't know if this is possible)

Not a sight but at least it's something.

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An Aimpoint T1 and T2 will co-witness if it's mounted on a Ultimak rail. I personally like it better mounted on a clip guide rail as that allows a more heads up position and your field of view towards a threat is better, but it's also more prone to being damaged up there and it has to be removed to use irons. Decisions decisions.....

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Old April 16th, 2017, 11:26 AM   #5
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I love the Hopco setup on my scout.

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Old April 16th, 2017, 11:43 AM   #6
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My opinion, for what it's worth, (and some would say not much) It is a waste to limit your M14 to the range a red dot is intended for. 1-6 power like the vortex strike eagle would give you good close range acquisition as well as extended range usefulness. That said, I use a vortex 3-9x40 viper on my M1A and can come on target at 50 yds as fast as with my wife's AR15 with the strike eagle.

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Old April 16th, 2017, 01:17 PM   #7
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I helped design the M14.CA CASM scope mount lineup, all of which replace the rear sight. One of the things we developed was a mount for a micro red dot that does exactly what you want. Some people really like a mucro red dot mounted over the M14 receiver, replacing the rear peep sight, but I personally prefer my red dot sights further forward. M14.CA also makes a railed hand guard for standard and medium weight barrels, that allows many different low mounted micro red dot sights to CO-WITNESS with the excellent M14 issue iron sights.

This is, IMHO, a better solution.
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Red Dot sight and two types of mounts

Look in the Optics forum under my post GG&G scout rail with Fastfire 3 sight, there are two options that I have tried , the second option with the striper clip rail is the best one. both retain the irons very usable. I have only a 3/8 inch cheek riser that mainly cushions the hard walnut stock.

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I like mine. Great for snap shooting and moving targets.[think hogs]

This is an original FF. You have to remove it to change the battery. But this battery has been in it for 2 years now. I might upgrade one day to the FF III . The battery compartment is on top. The dot in the pic is much smaller in real life. About 1/4 the size of the white center dot on the sight body. The camera focal point on the sight enlarged it considerably.

I just got a good deal on a couple of SPARC II's . I might put one on here with some QD rings. I have one on a 17" barrel Fal and really like it.

Rifle is one of my older Poly's with an SAI 18" barrel
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roomie lee majors makes a mount the slides into the clip guide slot and you can still use the sights

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Old April 17th, 2017, 04:42 PM   #11
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To me the stripper clip guide mounts put the dot too high, requiring a cheek riser.

I've never used a forward mounted scope, that may be a better set up. I do know I do not want anything attached to the barrel and nothing that would mess with the draw pressure.

Here's what I came up with. Haven't shot it yet but it sure looks like fun!

Nothin fancy but pretty low. It could go a bit lower.

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