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Old March 28th, 2017, 08:01 PM   #1
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General M-14 Optics Question

Starting to look into optics options for my M14. Some of the factors seem to be platform related so thought I would just see what people would suggest.

What power would be appropriate for the M14 within reason? I might try it out to some range (Some local ranges go out above 600 yards) but I might also like the option to put it on another rifle.

Objective Lens Diameter, what would fit on the M-14 without any kind of clearance issues? Either a standard or a chassis stock. I am aware that the rings and mount will make a difference as well.

What would be a good range of values for eye relief. I know this will depend on the operator as well but just an approximate baseline might be nice. This is not a scout setup so I do not need a long eye relief scope.

Are there any other factors that I should look at in terms of specs in looking at scopes for the rifle?

I have plenty of time before a purchase so just looking at options and doing some research.

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How much $$$ you got....

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For 600 yards I really like the Bushnell Elite 1-6.5x24 and 1-8.5x24 FFP MRAD Illuminated reticle optics from Bushnell. At 1x the reticle is a red dot. At 6.5x or 8.5x its a full on MRAD reticle for holdovers. My scout does well at 600 with it.

I got the 1-6.5x24 FFP on my scout. Here is the link to the optic here on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Tact...ll+elite+1-6.5

And here is the 1-8.5x24 https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Tact...nell+elite+1-8



If the bushnell elite FFP is out of your price range, Primary arms makes some just like it that are SFP but very reasonably priced. Also Bushnell makes a SFP of this optic too but I think if you are going SFP you may as well go for Primary Arms.

For 600 yards I wouldnt go over 10x magnification. Even 10x is pushing it. As for objective lens 24x is decent for these ranges. Eye relief I would not go under 2 inch for 308. The Elite I listed up top is a 4 inch eye relief.

For other specs you should look into I highly suggest First Focal Plane (FFP). The reticle increases or decreases size as you increase or decrease magnification. So at whatever magnification the MRAD reticle is accurate. Unlike Second Focal Plane (SFP) optics where the reticle is usually only accurate at max power.

First thing is to decide what you plan to spend. Then after that decide what magnification you plan to go with. And if you want or don't want FFP. Once you got all of that make a list of all the optics in that price area with the stats you want and read reviews and warranty's.....then make the difficult choice after the weeding process.


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How much $$$ you got....
Right now I am not looking at any particular brand just some general specs that might be right for the rifle. As far as dollar amount I am not exactly sure what my budget is at the moment. If there is a feature on a high end scope that would be nice to have that is only on more expensive optics I would like to know about it. Just tying to be a well informed consumer.

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1.25 - 4 is a very good range for the capabilities of the M-14.

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The suggestion of not more power than 10X or perhaps even less is one I totally agree with for a scope on your rifle. Size, weight, bulk from super sized scopes is a problem for me since the rifle is already on the heavy side and it is a shoulder fired firearm. Think of 1x per 100yds. as rule of thumb and then how often you are going to shoot from 100 to 1000yds. and go from there. If your shooting at the most is some 600yds. then a quality fixed power scope of 6x would be more than adequate and one I would suggest taking a look at is the Leupold FXIII 6x42. It's customizable from Leupold if you want different reticles, knobs, etc., etc. and has high quality lens system. Just a suggestion.

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The suggestion of not more power than 10X or perhaps even less is one I totally agree with for a scope on your rifle. Size, weight, bulk from super sized scopes is a problem for me since the rifle is already on the heavy side and it is a shoulder fired firearm. Think of 1x per 100yds. as rule of thumb and then how often you are going to shoot from 100 to 1000yds. and go from there. If your shooting at the most is some 600yds. then a quality fixed power scope of 6x would be more than adequate and one I would suggest taking a look at is the Leupold FXIII 6x42. It's customizable from Leupold if you want different reticles, knobs, etc., etc. and has high quality lens system. Just a suggestion.
I'm planning on substituting a MkIV 1.5x5 (actually 4.5 on the high end) with a fixed power scope to work in conjunction with a red dot. I like the advice of the Leupold FXIII 6x42. It would allow me to transition from long range to close quarter without fumbling with a power knob. The 42mm objective has more light gathering power than the variables within that power range. I especially like that it can be customized with different reticles. Thanks for the thought.

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I had a SWFA 1-6 going out to 300 yards and I found myself wanting a bit more magnification.

I'm on my second 2.5-10 mag scope with a third on the way. Plenty of magnification but in a compact package.

The usual suspects for scope brands: Vortex, Leupold, Nightforce, USO, SWFA.

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For 600 yards I really like the Bushnell Elite 1-6.5x24 and 1-8.5x24 FFP MRAD Illuminated reticle optics from Bushnell. At 1x the reticle is a red dot. At 6.5x or 8.5x its a full on MRAD reticle for holdovers. My scout does well at 600 with it.

If the bushnell elite FFP is out of your price range, Primary arms makes some just like it that are SFP but very reasonably priced. Also Bushnell makes a SFP of this optic too but I think if you are going SFP you may as well go for Primary Arms.

For 600 yards I wouldnt go over 10x magnification. Even 10x is pushing it. As for objective lens 24x is decent for these ranges. Eye relief I would not go under 2 inch for 308. The Elite I listed up top is a 4 inch eye relief.

For other specs you should look into I highly suggest First Focal Plane (FFP). The reticle increases or decreases size as you increase or decrease magnification. So at whatever magnification the MRAD reticle is accurate. Unlike Second Focal Plane (SFP) optics where the reticle is usually only accurate at max power.

First thing is to decide what you plan to spend. Then after that decide what magnification you plan to go with. And if you want or don't want FFP. Once you got all of that make a list of all the optics in that price area with the stats you want and read reviews and warranty's.....then make the difficult choice after the weeding process.
Thanks for the information. I was debating about a first or second focal plane. I might be doing things kind of backwards from what your thinking, I have no problem in finding what scope I want and having to wait and save up a little. I guess my Dad taught me better to get what you want instead of buying something twice. Good to know about the eye relief, I was more worried about a maximum number so if I am in the 4 inch range I should be good.

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I had a SWFA 1-6 going out to 300 yards and I found myself wanting a bit more magnification.

I'm on my second 2.5-10 mag scope with a third on the way. Plenty of magnification but in a compact package.

The usual suspects for scope brands: Vortex, Leupold, Nightforce, USO, SWFA.
When you get it let me know how the change in magnification works for you.

Thanks for every ones input as well.

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