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Old January 30th, 2017, 05:25 PM   #1
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Scoping a NM M1A (22" barrel)

I'm struggling to install a scope on my NM M1a (22" barrel)

I'm not happy with the Springfield mounts. The ones I've seen at my range seems to have problems, especially the aluminum ones. Same for the Basset mounts. They loosen up, lose zero, and are difficult to maintain.

Various manufacturers offers a Brookfield type (three point)scope mounts that was created in the 80s, but prices range from the $200 to $350+, but these mounts require a new stock to get your eye relief at the right level. These stocks run in the $300 to $1000 range. It also appears these stocks don't like heavy NM barrels. So a new barrel may be required.

I turned 51 this year and my eye doctor gifted me with a pair of bifocals. Clearly iron sights are a thing of the past. I really enjoy my M110 (scoped AR in 308), but I still like to keep my M1a and would like to be able to scope and enjoy shooting my M1a.

Can the groups provide suggestions for scoping a NM M1a without breaking the bank?

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Old January 30th, 2017, 07:56 PM   #2
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I'm struggling to install a scope on my NM M1a (22" barrel)

I'm not happy with the Springfield mounts. The ones I've seen at my range seems to have problems, especially the aluminum ones. Same for the Basset mounts. They loosen up, lose zero, and are difficult to maintain.

Various manufacturers offers a Brookfield type (three point)scope mounts that was created in the 80s, but prices range from the $200 to $350+, but these mounts require a new stock to get your eye relief at the right level. These stocks run in the $300 to $1000 range. It also appears these stocks don't like heavy NM barrels. So a new barrel may be required.

I turned 51 this year and my eye doctor gifted me with a pair of bifocals. Clearly iron sights are a thing of the past. I really enjoy my M110 (scoped AR in 308), but I still like to keep my M1a and would like to be able to scope and enjoy shooting my M1a.

Can the groups provide suggestions for scoping a NM M1a without breaking the bank?
I turned 49 this year.
I also went to bi focals (progressive) earlier this year.
I also have an M1A NM with the med/heavy NM barrel.
I purchased the Sadlak Airborne Mount for mine.
I installed it and like you needed a really tall cheek riser.
The 2 best cheek risers in my opinion are the TNVC RSP Mod.0
https://tnvc.com/shop/tnvc-rsp-mod-0/

and the Tac-Pro strap on cheek riser.
http://tacpro.com/product_info.php?products_id=39
In the end I found that I didn't enjoy shooting with a scope so far above the bore axis so I removed the scope and went back to shooting it with irons.

In the fall I went to a precision rifle clinic and competition which I was shooting with my scoped bolt action rifle.
At the en of the competition we had a bit of extra time so I brought out the M1A and shot it at 600M with open sights.
It was the first time shooting it past 100M.
With a great spotter I was on target by the second shot.
The second shot scored a 4.
The 3rd and 5th shots were scored a 5.
The 4th shot was scored a V-Bull.
The target was a figure 11/59 17" W x 45" H.
This is the scoring table.
http://modernriflemanradio.com/wp-co...book-pg-57.pdf

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Sounds like a Sadlak Mount and a Adjustable Bradley Cheek Rest is what you should get. No need for a new stock or new barrel just to scope your rifle.

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Thumprrr beat me to a reply. Sooo everything he said = good info.

Plus one on the Sadlak mount, http://www.sadlak.com/si_rifle_partm.html.

I have the steel one on my SA NM. I bought it after wasting time and money trying to get an SA 3rd gen to work.

You will need the check riser with that mount and another alternative for a check rest is the Bradley which I use.

http://www.bradleycheekrest.com/Brad...stable_c11.htm

Definitely worth a look as well. (They are site sponsor too)

Enjoy your rifle.

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ARMS 18 mount and a low powered scope. You may not even need a cheek riser.

Just because your eyes are aging, you don't need anything highpower. All you need is to be able to see the reticle and target clearly.

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I have a Sadlak mount on mine and went with the cheap SWFA 10X SS scope so I could shoot her. No complaints there but the cheap 'vodoo'? cheek riser needs upgrading when money permits; wish I would have bought a Bradly Adj.

I am 59 and have had to wear glasses all my life and bi-focals/progressives since my 40's... No more iron sights for me


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Sounds like a Sadlak Mount and a Adjustable Bradley Cheek Rest is what you should get. No need for a new stock or new barrel just to scope your rifle.
Thanks for your reply. I have a couple of questions after reviewing your suggestions.

Which model of the Sadlak Mount do you recommend?

It appears they have several flavors (Titanium, Steel, Aluminum, and Airborne)

Also, pricing seems all over the place.

Fulton Armory offer Brookfield type steel scope mount in the $180 range and the Sadlak start in the $180 range for Aluminum. I'm kind of wary of Aluminum.

Also, on these cheek rest(s) that are held in place with velcro, how stable are they? It would seem that would move around on the shooter.

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Thanks for your reply. I have a couple of questions after reviewing your suggestions.

Which model of the Sadlak Mount do you recommend?

It appears they have several flavors (Titanium, Steel, Aluminum, and Airborne)

Also, pricing seems all over the place.

Fulton Armory offer Brookfield type steel scope mount in the $180 range and the Sadlak start in the $180 range for Aluminum. I'm kind of wary of Aluminum.

Also, on these cheek rest(s) that are held in place with velcro, how stable are they? It would seem that would move around on the shooter.
I would get the steel sadlak model. If your concerned with weight then get the airborne. As for the adjustable Bradley cheek rest it will not move on the shooter. I use one and lots of members here use them as well with no problems.

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Sadlak, Bradley here too, can't complain about either

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Old January 31st, 2017, 08:49 AM   #11
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Unless you are jumping out of air planes, the Sadlak aluminum version is more than strong enough. It is About $145.00. Bradly , Tac Pro, or Coyote cheek riser.

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Unless you are jumping out of air planes, the Sadlak aluminum version is more than strong enough. It is About $145.00. Bradly , Tac Pro, or Coyote cheek riser.
Thanks for the feedback. The Springfield mount in aluminum have problems, it always make me concerned. Thanks again about the feedback about the Sadlak aluminum version.

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