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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:27 PM   #16
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Will do Eagle thanks for the heads up! Any ideas on surplus ammo that want put me in the poor house that still shoots decent? Another question I have is about lead tipped hunting bullets yes or no. Should I stick with the ballistic tip style bullets? Again thanks for listening too and answering my questions even if they don't sound so smart? I have a lot invested already don't want to find out the hard way what I shouldn't do. Thanks!

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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:31 PM   #17
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Will do Eagle thanks for the heads up! Any ideas on surplus ammo that want put me in the poor house that still shoots decent? Another question I have is about lead tipped hunting bullets yes or no. Should I stick with the ballistic tip style bullets? Again thanks for listening too and answering my questions even if they don't sound so smart? I have a lot invested already don't want to find out the hard way what I shouldn't do. Thanks!
Surplus ammo, Hirt is good.
Watch all of Tony bens videos multiple times and you are off to a good start.

The search box will give you a lot of information as new people ask the same questions.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 10:18 PM   #18
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I vote get a bassett low picatinny mount and throw on (enter optic here) and get some 1980's hirtenberger 360 round battle packs. When you need iron sights just remove the scope mount. It is borderline quick detach in a way. And when you need the optic just put it on. The amount of zero you lose is around .5 moa or so in my testing. Usually unnoticeable.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 10:44 PM   #19
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Get a SWFA 10x42 for 300 bucks for a scope don't look back and over think it. Get the burris rings 80 bucks there fine etc etc. The scope mount get a basset split mount that will be speedy. Go research this all you want but its the correct answer.


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Old December 8th, 2016, 04:02 AM   #20
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When I was scoping standard M-14 type rifles I found that the Sadlak worked out the best for my situations. The ARMs #18 was just a bit too low and caused interference with ejected casings.
I have since stopped scoping the standard M-14s and have gone rifles with a build in rail such as the LRB M-25, the Bula Defense Systems M-21 and currently using the Bula XM21 for the most rugged mounting of optics available for the rifle type.





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Old December 8th, 2016, 04:58 AM   #21
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The best way to scope an M14 patterned rifle is, as Art stated above, to go with a dedicated scoped receiver like the Bula M21, XM21 and the LRB M25.

The most rugged way to mount a scope to a traditional M14 pattered receiver with the traditional side-mounts is with the Sadlak or ARMS 18 mounts.

The hands-down most convenient way to scope an M14 using the side-mount is with a Bassett Picatinny mount. The high will allow use of the iron sights. The low is the most comfortable, in my opinion. It is very repeatable and has proven to me to work very well.

Another option is the M14.CA CASM mount. It replaces the rear sights and provides a very long picatinny rail which does not go past the receiver face (unless you get the long version). This version does not interfere with SAGE chassis top rails, like the M25, Bassett and Sadlaks do, which requires modification of the SAGE top rail.


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Old December 8th, 2016, 03:50 PM   #22
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Like Tony and Art said, a receiver with a built in rail is the best way to mount optics with the m14 platform. I'm using a Sage DCSB with the sage chassis. Thus attaches your optic to the chassis instead of the receiver. As I see it the less parts between your scope and receiver the better. A scope mounted to a Lrb m25 just needs scope rings to attach a scope. My Sage needs scope rings, DCSB, and chassis. More things to go wrong in the end.

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Old December 8th, 2016, 04:09 PM   #23
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Welcome from Southeast Texas.

I have the Bassett standard Picatinney rail on my Scout.

It sits high enough to use the irons with the scope mounted.

Since it does sit high you'll need a cheek riser.

Easy on, easy off, no removal of the stripper clip guide required.

A temporary cheek riser can be made from that foam insulation used to insulate pipe.

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Will do Eagle thanks for the heads up! Any ideas on surplus ammo that wont put me in the poor house that still shoots decent? Another question I have is about lead tipped hunting bullets yes or no. Should I stick with the ballistic tip style bullets? Again thanks for listening too and answering my questions even if they don't sound so smart? I have a lot invested already don't want to find out the hard way what I shouldn't do. Thanks!
I have had good success along with others with the Hirtenberger 7.62x51 for outdoor range shooting since the bullet is bi-metallic so you'll need to check the range rules. I haven't test fired any lead tip 7.62x51 in my M14 yet but have several boxes of Outback 7.62X51 ammo to try out. The PPU 7.62x51 match grade has been selling like crazy so that might be another option to look at. I've had great accuracy performance reports on Hornady from all sides of the rifle and shotgun users for hunting big game. Either way check with your local DNR hunting regs, as most States require the use of an expanding bullet so a FMJ bullet does not qualify. Hence you'll need a semi jacket expanding tip or hollow point to be legal.

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Old December 8th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #25
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I ordered a 240 round pack of the Hirt today for just practice shooting. I found some factory loaded nolsler ballistic tips 150 gr. at around 2500 FPS if they group well will use them for hunting applications for deer at least. I will pound the piggies with what ever I can grab first. They tear the land up around here really bad, hard to plant food plots or large gardens without them destroying it.

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Less experienced than other advisors above, but having had the same question and doing some research (also here), I decided for a scout scope. This is a m14.ca rail and a Nikon Force scope. The rail does get a little hot, but I really like it, and the scope seems to hold zero well when un/mounting.



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Old December 19th, 2016, 09:11 AM   #27
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Finally got it. Not a doubt in my mind that this wasn't made in the USA!
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Old December 19th, 2016, 09:37 AM   #28
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I went with the Basset mainly because it's easy to dismount and remount.

Now that I've said that I must add that I don't remove it very often.

I shoot both close range and long range. When shooting at 200yds and closer I prefer open sights. Past that the scope comes in handy.

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Finally got it. Not a doubt in my mind that this wasn't made in the USA!
Was that a joke or are there really chicom knockoffs out there now?

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Old December 19th, 2016, 10:31 AM   #30
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It wouldn't surprise me if there where. So I got my rings in the same usps delivery. Got it mounted with no problem. It is poring down rain but I plan to set up the lead sled on the porch and give it a go anyway. According to my irons elevation is really close while windage is roughly 5 feet left. I hope I have that much adjustment! It is a little bit high and I need a cheek riser. But I'm own my way to where I want to be!
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