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Old October 10th, 2014, 08:21 AM   #1
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Field Test of $$$$ Scopes

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/0...sults-summary/

Above is a link to a field test of some very expensive scopes. Its quite comprehensive and I found it to be an interesting read. I wish he would do a test on scopes in the $700 to $1500 range as thats where I find my purchasing ability. Just thought some of you might be interested although if you are buying $4000 plus scopes, you have probably already seen this. Enjoy!

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Old October 10th, 2014, 08:38 AM   #2
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Reticle selection help:
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/0...opes-reticles/

Long range scope buyers guide (shows FFP vs SFP difference):
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/0...s-to-look-for/

Mil vs MOA comparison
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/0...ve-comparison/

If you poke around on that blog, you will find the above discussions as well as tons of other great info that will help answer a lot of scope questions seen here on m14forum. I just discovered the blog today while reading threads on snipershide. I hope you all find this as useful as I have.


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Old October 12th, 2014, 07:50 PM   #3
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Old October 12th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #4
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Thanks KyAggie. This pic made me realize something I hadn't seen before since I've never looked through a first focal plane scope. At lower magnification, I'm most likely shooting at a closer target and don't need refinements on the crosshairs. I would go to higher magnification when the target is farther away. That's when I may need to see all of the cross-tension marks on the crosshairs, and I would if I zoomed in using a FFP scope.



Obviously the reticle could be poorly designed so that it was either too faint at low magnification or too thick at max magnification. I would have to look through a 5-25x FFP scope to see if the shift in magnification of the reticle was too much or just right at max and min zoom.

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TinMan, I would definitely recommend looking through any FFP scope prior to purchase to make sure the reticle will do what you want at the different power settings. Some companies do this very well, some not so much. I've seen some that were so fine at the lowest power setting I felt the reticle basically unusable at those settings; can't remember what scope that was though. I have a SWFA 1-6 that has a great FFP reticle and I looked through a Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x32 with the MRAD reticle and thought it would be very useful at all power settings. I can see where the FFP reticles would be nice to have if engaging multiple targets and moving targets at ranges over 500 yards, which is not really an application I have at this time.

Take a look at the SWFA 1-6 reticle, on the link below, you can see what it looks like at 1x and at 6x; good for close range and good out to about 600 yards which is more than any gun range close to me and much more than the average distance one is able to shoot in wooded Kentucky. All the rest of my scopes are SFP and I do not find myself at a disadvantage with them given my area and application.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-HD-1-6x24-Ta...pe-P53845.aspx

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This would probably be a good thread to sticky in the optics section...hint hint

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Thank you Sir, one of the better comparisons on scopes I've seen & like you I'd like a similar comparison in the price range both of us are interested in. Repeatable mechanical accuracy is often neglected in comparisons although IMO it is just as important as lens clarity

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Old October 13th, 2014, 09:29 AM   #8
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Yeah, I would love to see a Vortex PST (especially the 2.5-10x32 FFP), Leupold Mark 4, SWFA, Burris, to Nightforce 2.5-10x42 comparison. I think that's where the majority of us find our purchasing power optics wise and I also think scopes in this range fit the M14 better than a 40+oz. 56mm scope that costs $4000. In one of the responses below the test article, some else asked for the same comparison with scopes under $1500 and he replied back that he may do one after Shot Show 2015. Let's hope he does; I'll try to stay up with it and will post a link if I see it.

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I know what you mean some of those scopes are huge by themselves .
IMO those huge scopes overpower an m14 to the point they look like a great dane mounting a chihuahua . Not saying I wouldn't love to have one but if I could afford one that nice and that large it would be mounted on a fifty.cal they'd look great there. There should be a balance in things be they firearms ,bikes ,cars or women, etc.....

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Thanks for the link, lots of good info there. The Bushnell Tactical seems to be a great scope and in the price range many are wanting. It is telling that so many top competitors are using it.

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Thanks for the links ! Very interesting reports... I am with you though.... 7k is WAY out of my price range.

Excellent reports though.

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Yeah, I would love to see a Vortex PST (especially the 2.5-10x32 FFP), Leupold Mark 4, SWFA, Burris, to Nightforce 2.5-10x42 comparison. I think that's where the majority of us find our purchasing power optics wise and I also think scopes in this range fit the M14 better than a 40+oz. 56mm scope that costs $4000. In one of the responses below the test article, some else asked for the same comparison with scopes under $1500 and he replied back that he may do one after Shot Show 2015. Let's hope he does; I'll try to stay up with it and will post a link if I see it.
The 2.5-10x42 nightforce is the best 'lightweight tactical' scope out right now if that is what you're asking. The premier light tactical was great too but I don't think they are around anymore, Tangent Theta or something now with a different lineup.

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I prefer the NF NXS 2.5-10x32 MOAR Zerostop Model C455. The ability to mount it low on an ARMS 18 mount and need only a cheek pad provides superior balance. Anything more than a 10x on an M14 is a stretch in my humble opinion.




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I've been keeping up with that blog. I am in the fortunate position of having (or had) more than one scope in that lineup. I don't quite agree with their scoring on some items. For example: Some scopes took a hit because they don't offer a lot of reticle options. However if the one option offered happens to be your favorite reticle, I don't think points should be deducted for it.

Another issue is that I had two of the optics side by side and going back and forth between the two, I could not reproduce their resolution results. Mine were the opposite of what they experienced. Different eyes for different folks.

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Old October 14th, 2014, 01:24 PM   #15
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I would say their glass quality list is on par with some outliers. It's not just eyes but scopes themselves can vary. Tracking can vary too, some of the scopes he dings for having 1% error but that would never be noticed by your average user.

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