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The clash of the 1x optics that are so expensive my eyes bleed

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 01:17 PM   #16
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I have the superslam 1-5 X its fantastic, you want the 1-5x tactical FFP with the reticle of your choice.

i have the tactical 4-20x50mm FFP Mil dot, side focus. just as bright as a night force, though it has moa adjustments. I use a mil dot master so this scope is perfect for me.

the super slam features closed off turrets, the tactical has what i think is the best turret system next to the premier ret one. you pull up on the turrets and it has tactile clicks.

the super slam turrets work the same, only they don't reset to zero, and have aluminum covers.

the other thing i like about the weavers is the extremely long and forgiving eye relief.

if your getting japanese glass/tubes go weaver for the savings. if your going german glass then by all means get the high end stuff.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 01:38 PM   #17
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As of so far im leaning stongly towards the following:

Premier Heritage 1.1-8x24
The Schmidt bender 1-8x24 Speeddot II
March Tactical model 1x-10x 24mm

No matter which direction I go I'm adding darn near 3/4 to a lb of weight ontop of the mount.. If the March tactical is really as light as they say it is, which I have my doubts... Then I'd say for the added weight i'd rather have the 10x magnification putting it at the top of my list to watch and research.


Some manufacturers I'd like to see in the 1-8x 1-10x rat race game are pride fowler, and vortex.

I'm glad to hear the 1-5x is excellent, When you say they don't reset to zero are you saying they don't have a zero stop?


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Old January 22nd, 2013, 01:44 PM   #18
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As of so far im leaning stongly towards the following:

Premier Heritage 1.1-8x24
The Schmidt bender 1-8x24 Speeddot II
March Tactical model 1x-10x 24mm

No matter which direction I go I'm adding darn near 3/4 to a lb of weight ontop of the mount.. If the March tactical is really as light as they say it is, which I have my doubts... Then I'd say for the added weight i'd rather have the 10x magnification putting it at the top of my list to watch and research.
Cedmonds, I know you mentioned mounting on a Scout Rifle, and none of the scopes are EER. Wondering what you are planning on for a mount??? dozier

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 01:44 PM   #19
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Cedmonds, I know you mentioned mounting on a Scout Rifle, and none of the scopes are EER. Wondering what you are planning on for a mount??? dozier
Sadlak Airborne, I just went back and re-clarified the original post. I removed the scout mount and handguard and replaced it with a std black plastic handgaurd.

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Sadlak Airborne, I just went back and re-clarified the original post. I removed the scout mount and handguard and replaced it with a std black plastic handgaurd.

Gotcha Cedmonds, it's just some here don't realize there is a difference in the two types of scopes. Good choice on the receiver mount. Sonds like you will have a nice build when finished. dozier

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 02:10 PM   #21
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Gotcha Cedmonds, it's just some here don't realize there is a difference in the two types of scopes. Good choice on the receiver mount. Sonds like you will have a nice build when finished. dozier

I keep telling myself after the optic I'm done... It will be the end all capstone to a very expensive journey paved in wasted money and two failed relationships. Anything short of upgrading to an LRB their isn't much more to be done but shoot the piss out of it! I'm fast approaching where I've always dreamed my scout to be since the moment I bought it.

To stop and think about all the trigger time $3,000 spent on the optic could be in surplus .308 is staggering but this is the last major firearm related purchase I plan to make for the foreseeable future minus ammunition.


Hopefully this optic doesn't feed a new founded expensive addiction to quality glass... I'll be in deep trouble!

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 02:13 PM   #22
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Get the S&B... thats what i would do.

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Get the S&B... thats what i would do.

The farther I dig the more and more I'm leaning to the Schmidt bender on warranty, serviceability and sheer availability. Two of the three scopes in my top three scopes (the march 1-10 and the premier 1.1-8x) seem pretty hard to get a hold of if not impossible.. The S&B short dort II 1-8x24 I've actually seen in store not even a week ago. I suppose I better jump on that soon.

I'll let you guys know what we end up with but I think its pretty safe to say I'm going with the S&B and HOPEFULLY never looking back..

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Of the three you have listed, the S&B would be my choice. Are you sure 8 or 10x is going to be enough magnification for 800 yds?

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Of the three you have listed, the S&B would be my choice. Are you sure 8 or 10x is going to be enough magnification for 800 yds?
Probably not, but it will make 200-500 a lot nicer (I hope). I just adjusted the original numbers to more realistic figures of 200-600 yard.

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Look at the Millett 1-4 x 24. I don't have one yet, but am planning on it in the future.

According to Wikipedia (USMC Designated Marksman Rifle): The most common scope used on the USMC DMR are TS-30.xx series Leupold Mark 4 day scopes.

VERY pricey!!!!

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Look at the Millett 1-4 x 24. I don't have one yet, but am planning on it in the future.

According to Wikipedia (USMC Designated Marksman Rifle): The most common scope used on the USMC DMR are TS-30.xx series Leupold Mark 4 day scopes.

VERY pricey!!!!
I have looked at the millet, they are a wonderful value but wasn't a huge fan of the reticle versus the vortex pst reticle in the optic I already have. It was actually the one I was going to get before I decided to go with the vortex based on features.


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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:35 PM   #28
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resident expert NoExert always had a good rule I remembered, 1x for every 100 yards. 8x should be fine for 800 yards.

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what type of targets will you be shooting at 800?

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resident expert NoExert always had a good rule I remembered, 1x for every 100 yards. 8x should be fine for 800 yards.
My vision has so far been 'knock on wood' but at x9 I am just about comfortable out to 200 yards. x4 at 100 yards is OK. Anything below that magnification and my groups begin to grow.

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