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Old July 30th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #1
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Help me decide which scope

I am looking to buy a new scope and have narrowed it down between 3.The scopes are the leupold vx-r patrol, vortex viper pst, and the Burris mtac all in 1-4 power except for the leupold which I think is 1.25-4.Tell me which one you would choose and why.


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Old July 30th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #2
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weaver tactical... great glass... that or the leupold.. the burris and vortex are a step down.

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Old July 30th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #3
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Leupold, because they have been good to me for over 4 decades. This vx-r patrol in 1.25 - 4 is perfect to ringing steel on my range. I couldn't ask for better.http://

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Old July 30th, 2012, 04:42 PM   #4
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Don't buy the Burris MTAC, it is imported and the quality shows. The only Burris line you should consider is the XTR line. If you want the MTAC style scope get the XTR 556 1-4. They are still made in the USA, they are decent scopes, the others are not worth the $.

I speak from experience on these scopes.

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Old July 31st, 2012, 10:11 AM   #5
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Get the Leupold. I tried to go cheaper and got a Counter Sniper, I GOT SCREWED! In optics, you get what you pay for.

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Old July 31st, 2012, 10:28 AM   #6
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Please for the love of Mike! Go to Optics Talk! Those guys are the experts on Optics. If you are going to buy "American" I suggest US Optics. Really now, the glass is going to be from overseas even if you build the mechanics here in the US. You can go to Japan and tell them the quality of the glass and coatings you want and if you want to go cheap then China for the tube (like some of the hunting scope lineup in Leupold).

Counter Sniper is known to be junk and I am sorry that scottglenn72 got SCREWED but he would not have been if had gone to Optics Talk and asking question and for suggestions and everyone on there would have warned about going near Counter Sniper!!

The people who run Optics Talk - are SWFA a Texas company, they have their own brand which is Super Snipers which are made in Japan. The quality is superb and there are a lot of write ups in group buys in Snipers Hide.

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Old July 31st, 2012, 11:51 AM   #8
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Everytime I've had a Leupold break, they fixed it...

I have been running a Vortex Viper PST 1-4 on my 3-gun AR for the last three years, lots of hard use and lots of power changes with a switchview, no issues.

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Old July 31st, 2012, 12:19 PM   #9
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The PST seems to be built decently. I like the feel of the controls. The glass in not impressive, although I don't know how much glass you need for a 1-4.

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My Leupolds have mostly come from SWFA. I can't believe how fast they deliver on an order.

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Old July 31st, 2012, 02:21 PM   #11
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I have long standardized on Leupold as they have always had something in the line to meet my needs and the pricing was within my range. I also try to buy US made products if at all possible and and Leupold remains within my credo on that basis also.
I know there is better glass to be had but at the boutique pricing levels this exists at I feel more investment in ammo and trigger time is likely to net me a better return than hamstringing myself with "uber" top grade glass which I had best be prepared to look at and love and I won't be able to shoot due to having no money for ammo.
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Now, I KNOW that tactical and sniping are at a basic level "seeing contests" as much as anything and the ultra top grade glass might somehow result in an "edge" in certain circumstances. But if the seeing isn't backed up with being able to actually be at the marksmanship level necessary to take advantage of that "seeing" then it's better to have a slightly less than "uber" type rifle scope and being proficient in shooting the weapon it's mounted on.
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Myself, I feel inclined towards tactical milling reticles, a lighted center IF it's workable in your circumstance, making sure it will go DOWN to a low enough power for snap shooting, and remembering to put on a LONG mounting rail so when the night vision gets mounted I don't have to mess around with my scope mounting to get it installed and working. Even if you do NOT have NV it cannot be a bad move in my mind to still have a place on the rails to mount it ahead of your day scope so if you find the need in the future you already have the spot to mount it.

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I will not buy the Burris seems to many people don't like it. I have heard a lot of good about the vortex on this forum and others. I also think the leupold Vxr is a good choice.I want to try to keep cost around 500$. I would love to have a higher end scope but I think buying more ammo would Be better than having so much money tied up in an optic.
The main thing I want in a scope is durability above all else. I would be willing to pay a little more for a scope that is supposed to be tougher than the rest. Any more suggestions of different scope makers would be appreciated. The weaver was mentioned earlier and I am now considering that one also.

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Old July 31st, 2012, 11:40 PM   #13
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I have the Vortex Viper PST 1-4 with the MOA reticle on my scout and I love it. If you buy it, make sure it is the MOA reticle and not the MRAD reticle which is too small in my opinion and too hard to see. I have had no issues with it. I also have several Leupolds on other rifles and have had no issues with them as well. I would go with the Vortex or the Leupold.

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i don't think any of the scopes are actually made completely in the USA.

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There still are a few scopes made completely within the United States... just have to research them.

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