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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #1
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What scope for a 1000 yards?

As the title says what scope is best for up to a 1000 yards without giving up too much for closer in work? I'm a fan of Leupold especially due to their military/LE discount program.

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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:31 PM   #2
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I think you need to go with US optics. Schmidt and bender, or Premier Reticles

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Old July 13th, 2012, 09:31 PM   #3
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i use a leupold mk4 6.5x20 illum tmr reticle on a remy 700 police it works great, remember for all the awsome scopes we have today the great Carlos Hathcock shot a man in the head at 2500 yds with a 8x scope lol, if price is a factor use swfa, or bushnell elite there great scopes

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I always say that scopes are a personal choice. What works for one person, may not for another. Having said that, I'm partial to Night Force scopes on the high end. They are extremely rugged and have excellent features for me and superb optics. That's not to say the other recommendations are excellent choices, NF just happens to be mine.

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Do yourself a favor though, buy the absolute most expensive quality scope you can afford, then spend just a little more. You won't have any regrets that way later on, unless your wife finds out. Lol

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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #6
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No wife so no worries there. I just tend to be little ignorant in regards to scopes.

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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #7
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I believe a weaver tactical is just as good of glass as night force (tube too and about 400$ cheaper) both made in japan. the weaver tactical is great unless theres features on the night force you want (but those are usually for a bolt gun setup i think)

However the night force scopes have way more features.

One thing i like about the premier is that its designed from the ground up as a tactical scope.


is this for an m14 platform?

or a bolt gun?

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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #8
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For a real field Combat rifle scope I much prefer one with a Ballistic Cam, instread of Target Knobs.

I have a couple of Kahles and Swarovski fixed 6x scopes for 308 rifles that work great to 800 yards. I do have one that will go to 1000.

The Leupold 2.5 to 8 Mk IV and the 3.5 to 10 Mk IV with the M3 Ballistic Cams work great to 1000 yards.

The Night Force and the S&B are great scopes, but I much prefer one of the ones mentioned with the Ballistic Cam for real field use...

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I ain't no expert, but it seems to me that a .308 will drop over 20 feet at 1,000 yards, about a 30 moa scope adjust. I use a mil scope, so I could be wrong. A wider scope tube will allow for more moa adjust... I think. And you can ramp up the base. Good luck

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I just shot 1000 yards with a Leupold Mark 4 ER/T 4.5x-14x 50mm M5 model with good success. The optics will not have problem at that distance and shoothing offhand at 100-200 is no problem at the lower magnification either.

I use a 20 MOA scope base on my rifle but this scope could shoot 1000 without it. It has a lot of adjustment.

The most important thing for 1000 yard shooting is probably making sure you and you're rifle are consistently sub-MOA. Depending on the size of the target, the slightest error in your wind call @ 1000 yds will throw your rounds off target with .308 if you aren't shooting sub-MOA out to at least 300 yards or so.


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As the title says what scope is best for up to a 1000 yards without giving up too much for closer in work? I'm a fan of Leupold especially due to their military/LE discount program.
on a budget weaver tactical great glass good price and a FFP also vortex EBR also FFP here is a great deal on both in the classified section
http://m14forum.com/bx/117623-weaver...-both-ffp.html

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No wife so no worries there. I just tend to be little ignorant in regards to scopes.
I'm betting that after only reading just a few replies, that your even more confused. Lol. No worries. Maybe look at different features that all of these scopes has to offer and decide what features will best serve your purpose. Then choose a scope that offers the features you've chosen. USO will custom make a scope for you, with the features you want. It's not cheap, but they will do it. It's only company I know of that offers this service.
After you've chosen a scope, don't skimp on the mounting hardware. It makes no sence to buy a good quality scope and mount it with junk.
I would also highly recommend you get a scope with at least a 30mm tube.

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Old July 14th, 2012, 06:10 AM   #13
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Your scope just has to have enough vertical adjustment to reach 1,000 yards with the ammo you're using. Usually this means (1) picking a scope with lots of adjustment capability and (2) starting with a scope base that has 20 to 40 MOA built in.

I have a friend who just bought a Nightforce NXS 12-42X scope for use in long-range F-class matches. Even with a 20 MOA base, he didn't have enough elevation adjustment to reach 1,000 yards through his Remmy 700 .308. He got a 40 MOA base and now he can get there. If he had bought a scope with less zoom power, he could have got by with his original base. Generally speaking, tube diameter and zoom power affect how much adjustment a scope is capable of. For example, a NF 5.5 -22 has 100 MOA of vertical adjustment while a NF 12-42 scope only has 45. No matter what brand of scope you buy, you need to research how much elevation adjustment it can give you.

Here's how the MOA bases work - Let's say your scope has 100 MOA of total vertical adjustment. If you put that on a standard base, 1/2 of that range (50 MOA) will be downward adjustment. That half of the scope's adjustment range is basically just wasted. A 20 MOA base points your scope downward 20 MOA - making the gun shoot high by 20 MOA when the scope adjustment is centered. You have to adjust downward by 20 MOA just to get a zero at 100 yards. In the process, you have increased your upward adjustment capability by 20 MOA for a total of 70 MOA upward. Less of the scope's range is wasted.

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Nightforce NXS 5.5-22 is what I use, rated for 100moa of adjustment but my scope actually has 117 moa of adjustment. You won't need a canted base with this scope. Have shot it at steel out to 1200 yards with a couple moa to spare, (52moa above 100 yard zero).

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Depends on your budget...


If the sky is the limit... Get yourself an S&B PMII 5-25X56 you won't regret. I thought I was gonna get stuck shooting at a 1000, but when you start hitting you just want to go farther... I've gone out to 1200 yards (actually hitting) and out to 1400 yards... no hits that far out yet... the day I went out conditions were really bad 10-20 mph winds trying to tag an 18"x 12"w steel target with .308
Shooting between 100 to 600 yards is cake with it... never hurts to have that much power :)

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