Jesse Ventura loses appeal - Page 3 - M14 Forum

M14 Forum


Jesse Ventura loses appeal

This is a discussion on Jesse Ventura loses appeal within the Navy forums, part of the Armed Services category; Originally Posted by Lucky#13 Your evidence of this? I missed whatever earlier thread you refer to. I honestly don't know what the truth is of ...


Go Back   M14 Forum > Armed Services > Navy

49Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Moderator Tools Display Modes

Old January 10th, 2017, 07:49 PM   #31
Lifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SD
Posts: 2,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky#13 View Post
Your evidence of this?



I missed whatever earlier thread you refer to. I honestly don't know what the truth is of the event. There were more witnesses on Kyle's side, including 5 SEALS, while Ventura's seem to be a pair of close friends, husband and wife. But none of us were in the bar, or the courtroom, so it remains speculation to us. If you want to argue that Chris Kyle was a liar, I suggest you take that up with people who actually knew him, worked with him and relied on him. Kyle's record of accomplishment is pretty good, from what I have seen. Ventura, on the other hand, once seemed to be a pretty bright guy, but I think the man has shown his true colors. There is absolutely zero standard of manliness or humanity that he displayed in this whole affair. He could have handled this with class, both before and after Kyle was murdered. But class is not something one associates with Ventura. Mostly, he seems to have devolved into a marijuana advocate, conspiracy theorist and down right loony. Whatever accomplishment he achieved in being a UDT/SEAL, I am aware of no record of particular merit from his war service, at least in comparison to Kyle's. But let's face it. Ventura became famous as an actor in that most pathetic form of theater, WWF. If not for that crap, none of us would ever have heard of him. I just don't see much to admire about the man.

As to the legalities of the court case, it would seem to me that the dynamic of the "deep pocket" is a serious consideration in a case like this. A jury, had it thought Taya Kyle was going to have to pay this out personally, might come to a different conclusion. If they are led to believe- as Ventura's side readily admitted they were aiming- that a rich insurance company would pay, they might see no harm in such a judgement. It should not be a factor, the only thing that matters should be the facts of the case as presented, or at least the jury's interpretation of the case. Who is paying should not come into play. So if Ventura has not had enough of this, he can certainly bring the case to a new trial. I, for one, hope he just lets it go. He has made plenty of money, the "million" he spent on this mess was his own choice.
Do you have evidence that there was a fight? If you have that, you should contact Kyle's widow and provide that information, because they were unable to prove it at trial. As far as the insurance information being brought out in trial, watch the video of Ventura explaining the "poor mouthing", and how that particular tactic is used by Kyle's lawyers.

osokusmc is online now  
Remove Ads
Old January 14th, 2017, 11:12 PM   #32
Lifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SD
Posts: 2,353
Anyone get a chance to dig into this a little more? I guess I'm still of the thought that Chris Kyle lied about a lot of stuff. I'd like to see evidence to the contrary, but from the looks of things, Kyle lied, and Ventura was clearly damaged by it, just look at the reactions from this forum alone.

osokusmc is online now  
Old January 15th, 2017, 07:25 AM   #33
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugshank View Post
For God's sake, Ventura the dude is dead and it couldn't be more of a dead issue itself. Love it when millionaires squabble about their million-dollar entitlements because someone said meany-things years ago that hurt the feefees.
^^^THIS^^^

A Seabee is offline  
 
Old January 15th, 2017, 08:42 AM   #34
Lifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SD
Posts: 2,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugshank View Post
For God's sake, Ventura the dude is dead and it couldn't be more of a dead issue itself. Love it when millionaires squabble about their million-dollar entitlements because someone said meany-things years ago that hurt the feefees.
It's not necessarily just a matter of feelings, it's a matter of property damage. Ventura, apparently, was able to demonstrate that there was damage done to his business as a result of the slander. Imagine a coworker saying something that was untrue about you and it resulted in you losing a position, or potential promotion, and to add insult to injury, if you tried to get the thing straightened out, you were attacked for appearing to be mean to the guy who started the mess in the first place.

osokusmc is online now  
Old January 16th, 2017, 06:16 PM   #35
Lifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SD
Posts: 2,353
Surrender accepted.

osokusmc is online now  
Old January 16th, 2017, 07:36 PM   #36
Newbie
 
NegativeSixSigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 11
Well considering I live in the state of 10k lakes the trial got a lot of news coverage since Ventura was our governor. There were a few reports that the judge had refused to let several of the witnesses for Kyle's side testify. I have seen Kyle interviewed about what happened and have also seen Ventrua interviewed and discuss what happened. I have also seen interviews of Ventura shoot his mouth off and bad mouth the military and the soldiers who fought in Iraq/Afghanistan. It would not surprise me one bit that the way Ventrua shoots his mouth off that someone might take offense. To say that it happened or not I don't know. Perception is all subjective. To take Kyle's widow to court is pretty low. He was a lot more relevant when he was making the talk show circuit explaining his side of the story. Did he do it just to try and stay relevant and in the media spotlight? I don't think he did himself any favors in the court of public opinion.

NegativeSixSigma is offline  
Old January 17th, 2017, 01:40 AM   #37
Lifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: california
Posts: 4,229
I never believed any of it, for a lot of reasons.

Certainly possible but very unlikely that it ever happened.

noob14s is offline  
Old January 17th, 2017, 10:43 AM   #38
Lifer
 
Dougboffl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Sonshine State, JC
Posts: 2,116
This clears up one issue, Jesse was SF
Attached Images
File Type: jpg sf.jpg (10.9 KB, 3 views)

Dougboffl is offline  
Old January 17th, 2017, 12:08 PM   #39
Master Gunner
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Floyd Co., IN
Posts: 886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougboffl View Post
This clears up one issue, Jesse was SF
No, he (Ventura) was UDT and NEVER left Subic Bay. However, it is alleged he played a mean game of volleyball.

Thanks from Dougboffl
hurryinhoosier is offline  
Old January 17th, 2017, 05:06 PM   #40
Newbie
 
NegativeSixSigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier View Post
No, he (Ventura) was UDT and NEVER left Subic Bay. However, it is alleged he played a mean game of volleyball.
It has been about 5 hours and not a single Top Gun meme. I was expecting to hear that stupid Kenny Logins song.

NegativeSixSigma is offline  
Reply

  M14 Forum > Armed Services > Navy

Moderator Tools
Display Modes


Similar M14 Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jesse Ventura Debates Piers Morgan on Gun Control Viking Gun Rights 8 January 29th, 2013 10:03 PM



Top Gun Sites Top Sites List