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Old September 14th, 2016, 07:00 PM   #31
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Old September 14th, 2016, 08:03 PM   #32
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Old September 14th, 2016, 08:17 PM   #33
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That's my guess as I am a Honorable Shellback (Indian Ocean born)......

See post #12..........sigh

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"Forget the fact that she must have gained at least 20 or 30 lbs." Well, says who? I don't recall reading that in the article. Doesn't sound much like science to me.

It is entirely possible to become pregnant and not experience the symptoms of pregnancy (like weight gain and there are cases of pregnancy where weight is not gained). It's also entirely possible to become pregnant while on birth control, thus putting the woman in a state of denial, even if she has symptoms. And since we're judging tonight, perhaps having children with more than one woman isn't the best idea, either.


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Forget the fact that she must have gained at least 20 or 30 lbs. Maybe the girls today are just stupid, but if she had sex and then stopped having periods, that's usually a signal to take a pregnancy test. Another thing, every woman that I've had a child with has told me that they felt physically different before even taking the test, and every kid I've had, I could actually see the child moving around inside the mother, you mean to tell me that this woman didn't feel a living thing moving around inside her? Sounds like she's probably too stupid to even remember who knocked her up, and this is the acceptable level of intelligence of the current USN sailor?

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4th award, Did your friend explain how his wife had missed 9 periods without noticing?
Again, depending on exercise habits and/or birth control, the woman in question may not have had regular period cycles. But by all means, let's cling to ancient notions about steady, once a month periods.

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Old September 15th, 2016, 05:47 AM   #36
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"Forget the fact that she must have gained at least 20 or 30 lbs." Well, says who? I don't recall reading that in the article. Doesn't sound much like science to me.

It is entirely possible to become pregnant and not experience the symptoms of pregnancy (like weight gain and there are cases of pregnancy where weight is not gained). It's also entirely possible to become pregnant while on birth control, thus putting the woman in a state of denial, even if she has symptoms. And since we're judging tonight, perhaps having children with more than one woman isn't the best idea, either.
Thanks for mentioning the irregular/nonexistent periods. Too lazy to type that myself.

While not medically trained, I still believe there has to be SOME other symptoms that something is different.

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I wasn't making a moral judgement of the woman, and I do understand that not all women have regular periods. I based my statements on knowledge I've obtained from the women I've known, and what I understand (as a man) to be the physical changes that women undergo during pregnancy. I would think that a women that was sexually active, and knew she had a history of irregular periods, knowing that oral contraceptives are not 100% effective, would, for her own benefit, take home pregnancy tests regularly. I'm sure that there is a remote possibility that she didn't know she was pregnant, but I (and others here) find that doubtful. Not sure why I shouldn't have had children with more than one of the women that I've been married to though.

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It is entirely possible for women to have their monthly guest and still be pregnant. Some women only gain 5 to 10 lbs during pregnancy.

Here's a list of a few gals who didn't know they were pregnant. One was a British soldier in Afghanistan.

http://www.thetalko.com/14-women-who...ey-gave-birth/

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Old September 15th, 2016, 10:19 AM   #39
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"Shelveback'?????
I didn't look it up. I didn't go through it of course, either, as one could expect.

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"Is the shellback ceremony still necessary"? Oh, h__l yes! It's TRADITION!

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Old September 15th, 2016, 02:18 PM   #41
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I didn't look it up. I didn't go through it of course, either, as one could expect.
No worries........glad you didn't make an attempt at typing "Wog"..... as it is actually (or was) known as "Wog Day"

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"Is the shellback ceremony still necessary"? Oh, h__l yes! It's TRADITION!
Not anymore......it's nothing but a joke now......99% of what Wog Day used to be is now considered hazing and cruel....LOL

It wasn't exactly a ball of fun as I was targeted and had several "S"'s spray painted on me when the Shellbacks grabbed us and stuffed us in garbage cans to serve us our subpoena to Wog Day "festivities"...and I have scars on my knees from the non skid....but how proud did you feel when it was over! The next Wog Day was the best.....since I was swinging the shalaylee then!....with the ends cut and dipped....STING!

Todays Sailors/Marines are missing out on a great tradition of crossing the line....King Neptune and Davey Jones must be ashamed....very ashamed...; )

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Old September 15th, 2016, 06:32 PM   #42
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"Is the shellback ceremony still necessary"? Oh, h__l yes! It's TRADITION!

Hmmm!

When I enlisted and went thru recruit training , one of the things pounded into us was how deeply the Navy is steeped in TRADITION!

Crackerjacks went away for awhile. Beards , the privilege of Petty Officers 3rd class and up was a TRADITION of sailing men , a TRADITION of the sea , a TRADITION of the NAVY. 1984(?) or so , no more beards!

Women stayed ashore! Waiting for their men to return from the sea.

Many say men went to sea to get away from women!

Now , women go to sea!

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Old September 15th, 2016, 07:45 PM   #43
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Shellback ceremony dates to the Age of Sail when crossing either the Equator or the International Date Line (or your Captain got really cocky and crossed both at the same time) were performed to break up a LOOOOONG time at sea (figure 4 knots per hour, 4.6 Land Lubber miles per hour to get ANYWHERE). No TV, no Internet, heck no radio and for a lot of sailors, not much education. It was boring out there.

Line crossing ceremonies have been performed on civilian cruise liners so not specifically limited to military ships.

Any woman who can stand the rigors of life aboard a ship (particularly a submarine) is more than tough enough for a Shellback ceremony. Now getting Blue Lined for crossing the Arctic or Red Lined for the Antarctic Circle - that I don't know about for a woman. Might not be as excruciating as for a man.

Here is Wiki's list of Crossing the Line ceremonies. There are a lot more than you would think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-crossing_ceremony

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Old September 15th, 2016, 09:11 PM   #44
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Wog Day is how it is affectionately referred to.......it will never be the same as it was....too many weak liberal types get feelings hurt...or think it discriminates against someone or something......"hazing" as they think it is now gets you punished as if it were a criminal act...

Heck they can't even have real frocking lines anymore......it's the pussification of America and it's Military....

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