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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:12 AM   #16
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The number of low rent comments and immature jabs on here is disgraceful. The sailor served honorably during two wars. I guarantee the seal has seen, done, and been a part of more stuff than anyone on here combined (and I deployed 3 times!!). The sailor did the job, maybe there are other underling issues, who cares. Sailor the next drink is on me. Everyone else grower the heck up!

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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:15 AM   #17
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I don't care who you are or what surgery you have, if you have a XY chromosome you are a dude and always will be!
If you think yourself as something other than that you have a serious problem between the ears.
Do you have a psychology degree to back up that immature statement? I guarantee the sailor has done more for this country than you have. What right do you have to judge. Grow up. After serving in ATLEAST Afghanistan and Iraq he probably does have a few issues, that you donít deserve to even guess about.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #18
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I guess I have never really understood this, . . . but at the same time, . . . I don't really understand nuclear fission, . . . and have somehow survived.

Kudos for his/her service, as well as a "Thank You", . . . prayers upward bound for the future, . . .

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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:21 AM   #19
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I find it disturbing that the media glorifies gender identity disorder all in the name of "political correctness" and "equality".

How is it glorified? Sailor is coming out, will probably help a few other war heroes. I dont give a crap if your gay or whatever. Members of the military who serve with distinction deserve better treatment regardless of their dispositions. Support, and move on.

Can you imagine being gay or worse this sailor's issue and also trying to face and beat the demons from the wars? Coming out or surgeries might stop these heroes from offing themselves and Iím ok with that!

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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:33 AM   #20
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I guess I have never really understood this, . . . but at the same time, . . . I don't really understand nuclear fission, . . . and have somehow survived.

Kudos for his/her service, as well as a "Thank You", . . . prayers upward bound for the future, . . .

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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:43 AM   #21
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If you could get past it, she could be coolest girlfriend ever!

I don't care about her sexuality, just her politics, lol.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:44 AM   #22
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As a veteran, I have deep respect for anyone who has served in our military. I offer an extra measure of respect for those who volunteer for the most challenging military assignments such as special warfare.

This person has demonstrated courage both in the military and as a civilian. It would be much easier to live quietly under her new identity. I cannot imagine how difficult it would be to deal with such a dramatic change. I do not see the story as glorifying the person’s transition but rather as a message for others who may also be struggling with gender. Americans should be free to live as they see fit so long as it does not affect the freedom of someone else. Live and let live.

I salute the service of this Navy SEAL and I wish her fair winds and following seas in the future.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 10:00 AM   #23
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Well thats a big change. Other than that I dont care.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 10:03 AM   #24
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From the story, it appears that his sexuality played no role in his service. That is the way it should be. How he lives his life now is his business.

With today's open sexuality and mixed genders as a part of service life, we have sexual harassment, rapes, preferential treatment and now a push to remove sexual offenses out of the military justice system. The commanders are no longer going to be the commanders of old, but simply another set of cogs in the system.

This, in my opinion, does not enhance the ability of the military to succeed in its difficult role.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 10:23 AM   #25
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I deleted my first reply, too.. Well, too something.

Based solely on performance everyone should look the other way. This person out performed 95% of the population of this Country simply by being a SEAL. Said and done, the rest of us, myself included (I was a Navy nuke on subs-no mean feat either), did not make that cut, so STFU.

That said, mental issues are beyond the understanding of those who do not suffer from them. I am Bipolar AKA manic-depressive. If I could cut off a leg and be cured, I would do it in a heart beat because people can see a missing limb and associate with the problems it causes, they cannot see mental problems and therefore cannot understand them.

The next time you see someone walking down the street apparently talking to a bluetooth headset and a cell phone ask yourself is that really the case or are they stark raving Schizophrenic? It looks the same!

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How is it glorified? Sailor is coming out, will probably help a few other war heroes. I dont give a crap if your gay or whatever. Members of the military who serve with distinction deserve better treatment regardless of their dispositions. Support, and move on.

Can you imagine being gay or worse this sailor's issue and also trying to face and beat the demons from the wars? Coming out or surgeries might stop these heroes from offing themselves and Iím ok with that!
By commentators saying things like "He/She (whatever fits for whichever situation) is so brave for going through this." Recently, a young boy, who is 8 or 9, was on a morning news talk show because he believes he is a girl. He was praised for being so brave at such a young age. This child isn't even old enough to have any form of sexual identity, yet he is some sort of pioneer for other children? Most kids his age are just starting to recognize that there is a difference in gender. In his case, its most likely gender dysphoria, and if it doesn't go away in adolescence or early adulthood it becomes gender identity disorder.

As for gaining some sort of psychological relief through changing gender, most individuals who go through the surgeries to change their appearance still have emotional and psychological problems, identity conflicts. They can definitely be suicidal still, or can become suicidal because they still don't feel comfortable in their own skin and identity. That's why no one can just get some surgeries to change their gender. They have to live as their so-called "true gender", and then undergo hormone therapy. After evaluations, medically and psychologically, and after the aforementioned steps, they may be eligible for surgery.

It is a psychological disorder. But lets justify it, make it ok, and encourage people to cave to their abnormal behavior and change their gender all in the name of political correctness. Its ok right, their mind can't be wrong, they are who they believe they are...right? If that the case, then psychopaths are not responsible for murder, manipulation, and destroying lives. They can't help it, its not their fault.

I have nothing against this SEAL, I would buy him a beer in appreciation for his sacrifices to this country. However, I will not recognize that he really is "a women tragically trapped in a man's body".

I feel sorrowful for these individuals who cannot be helped because it would be politically incorrect to modify their behavior through therapy, who are taken advantage of by activists who wish to embrace anything outside of what is normal.

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The real GI Jane?

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The number of low rent comments and immature jabs on here is disgraceful. The sailor served honorably during two wars. I guarantee the seal has seen, done, and been a part of more stuff than anyone on here combined (and I deployed 3 times!!). The sailor did the job, maybe there are other underling issues, who cares. Sailor the next drink is on me. Everyone else grower the heck up!
Thanks for your 3 deployments and I'm not badmouthing his duty as an SEAL OPERATOR...but the ..." been a part of more stuff than anyone on here combined"...I doubt that.

You need to go to Washington D C and visit the Vietnam Wall, and while you're there, learn how to spell SEAL!
seal is very desrespectful, but how would I know...I'm just a low rent immature old man.

I had the most dangerous job in the Navy, I was a cook.

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Old June 5th, 2013, 11:50 AM   #29
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This "woman" still has more balls than 99.99% of us. Kudos to you.

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A person's true self is not defined by how they look, and any suffering resulting from appearance can only be eliminated through that realization. In fact, the majority of humans worldwide suffer from the same problem -- the symptoms are just different.

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