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Tophog · June 23rd, 2011, 10:18 PM

It's all called PC (Politically correct)!!!!!!! Bunch of crap...............

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Damn! I get sick just thinkin about what has been done to the Navy and our country !!!!

Then - If you smoked, you had an ashtray on your desk.
Now - If you smoke, you get sent outside and treated like a leper, if you’re lucky.

Then - Mail took weeks to come to the ship.
Now - Every time you get near land, there's a mob topside to see if their cell phones work.

Then - If you left the ship it was in Blues or Whites, even in home port.
Now - The only time you wear Blues or Whites is for ceremonies.

Then - You wore bell bottoms everywhere on the ship.
Now - bell bottoms are gone and 14 year-old girls wear them everywhere.

Then - You wore a Dixie cup all day, with every uniform.
Now - It's not required and you have a choice of different hats.

Then - If you said "damn," people knew you were annoyed and avoided you.
Now - If you say "damn" you'd better be talking about a hydroelectric plant.

Then -The Ships Office yeoman had a typewriter on his desk for doing daily reports.
Now - Everyone has a computer with Internet access and they wonder why no work is getting done.

Then - We painted pictures of pretty girls on airplanes to remind us of home.
Now - We put the real thing in the cockpit.

Then - Your girlfriend was at home, praying you would return alive.
Now - She is on the same ship, praying your condom worked.

Then - If you got drunk off duty, your buddies would take you back to the ship so you could sleep it off.
Now - If you get drunk off duty, they slap you in rehab and ruin your career.

Then - Canteens were made out of steel and you could heat coffee or hot Chocolate in them.
Now - Canteens are made of plastic, you can't heat them because they'll melt, and anything inside always tastes like plastic.

Then - Our top officers were professional sailors first. They commanded respect.
Now - Our top officers are politicians first. They beg not to be given a Wedgie.

Then - They collected enemy intelligence and analyzed it.
Now - They collect our pee and analyze it.

Then - If you didn't act right, they'd put you on extra duty until you straightened up.
Now - If you don't act right, they start a paper trail that follows you Forever.

Then - Medals were awarded to heroes who saved lives at the risk of their own.
Now - Medals are awarded to people who show up for work most of the time.

Then - You slept in a barracks, like a soldier.
Now - You sleep in a dormitory, like a college kid.

Then - You ate in a Mess Hall or Galley. It was free and you could have all the food you wanted.
Now - You eat in a Dining Facility. Every slice of bread or pat of butter costs, and you can only have one.

Then - If you wanted to relax, you went to the Rec Center, played pool, smoked and drank beer.
Now -You go to the Community Center and can still play pool, maybe.

Then - If you wanted a quarter beer and conversation, you could go to the Chief's or Officers' Club.
Now - The beer will cost you three dollars and someone is watching to see how much you drink.

Then - The Exchange had bargains for sailors who didn't make much money.
Now - You can get better merchandise and cheaper at Wal-Mart.

Then - If an Admiral wanted to make a presentation, he scribbled down some notes and a YN spent an hour preparing a bunch of charts.
Now - The Admiral has his entire staff spending days preparing a Power Point Presentation.

Then - We called the enemy things like "Commie Bastards" and "Reds" because we didn't like them.
Now - We call the enemy things like "Opposing Forces" and "Aggressors or Insurgents" so we won't offend them. [The Obama administration can’t even call them terrorists.]

Then - We declared victory when the enemy was dead and all his toys were broken.
Now - We declare victory when the enemy says he is sorry and won't do it again.

Then - A commander would put his butt on the line to protect his people.
Now - A commander will put his people on the line to protect his butt.

It used to be "wooden ships and iron men"! Now it's iron ships and kids skipping down the passageways, candy apple in one hand and a soft ice cream in the other.

Thank God I was in the "Old Navy" and proud of it.

HvyJet · June 23rd, 2011, 10:24 PM

Amen Brother.....

panther308 · June 24th, 2011, 06:42 AM

I was in from 80'-84' and spent my 4yrs on the USS Bluefish SSN 675 and loved the fellowship we seemed to have, we all knew each others families and each other pretty well. Things were not perfect but you could always speak your mind without fear of being brought up on charges for not being PC or sensitive to someones feelings.. Good Ol' days IMHO

MackR · June 24th, 2011, 05:30 PM

Good post, Bob. Enjoyed reading it. Lot of truth there!

MesaRifle · June 24th, 2011, 05:58 PM

Thanks! And I was starting to feel like I was alone and in need of psychotherapy....

(BTW, we'll be sending the white truck around for you in the morning.... [just kidding])

Tophog · June 24th, 2011, 09:15 PM

And anyone, please feel free to add to the list.

mercman · June 24th, 2011, 09:51 PM

Yeah, as the saying goes "these are the good old days", I was in during the little fracas that we were involved with in SE Asia. Those were pretty good times................and then the war against the communists ended and the war internal to the Navy began. I was going to reup and then things went really chickensh** and I couldn't get out fast enough. I'm sure that the guys that were in during Korea and WWII had it even better..............

pendennis · June 25th, 2011, 11:03 AM

While I agree with most of the Then and Now examples, the real problem was, and probably still is, drinking and drunkenness.

I served during 'Nam, and my late brother put in 24 years, active and reserve. For years people covered for the drunks, and it was abided all the way up the chain of command. He managed to be a functional alcoholic, but eventually died as a result of alcoholism. The Navy didn't cause him to be a drunk, but the environment surely contributed to his problem.

I never wanted anyone around me drunk or hung over. I still don't

I, for one, am happy they don't tolerate drunks any more

Tophog · June 26th, 2011, 12:02 AM

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. . . my late brother put in 24 years, active and reserve. For years people covered for the drunks, and it was abided all the way up the chain of command. He managed to be a functional alcoholic, but eventually died as a result of alcoholism.

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That is sad, but at least he didn't die of lead poisoning!

I'm not celebrating covering for drunks. But we at least tried to take care of our own!

We all 'unwound' in a different way. Not saying booze was the only answer, but the NAV, and military in general, didn't offer a lot of alternative mental escapes.

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Shell shock, PTSD, call it what you want. 150+ years doesn't change the reality of war, only the tactics. And the fighter is still the same!

(I'll get off my soap box now.)

dwight55 · June 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM

I might just have to make me a pair of Seafarers, . . . so I can be buried in something familiar and comfortable. Trouble is I can't find an old pair to use for the pattern.

Good post, Tophog.

May God bless,
Dwight

Richard__Head · July 3rd, 2011, 09:44 PM

Here ya go Dwight.

http://cgi.ebay.com/US-Navy-Unhemmed...item3ca9b0d070

Tophog · July 4th, 2011, 09:39 PM

Hahaha. Great if he has a 30" waist!

I know I don't!

Dragoon 15 · July 5th, 2011, 03:55 AM

Adapt, migrate or die... which one will you pick? The armed Services ALL change over time. I retired after 20.5 years as a senior officer. I saw changes that I didn't like and some that were very good for the Service culture and members. All "old-timers" lament about the past...WE need to judge the good and bad of our era as a single data point and not compare our time against the current Service culture. We are the ones that must adapt to the new culture.

Dragoon 15