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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:08 PM   #16
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PRS stock is not compatible with the carbine type extention, regardless, so that's not an option when using the Enidine. (Had to check the Magpul website, as I don't have one, but it seemed amiss, somehow!)

PRS utilizes the rifle tube and is rotationally secured by the recess in the AR-type receiver.
We were referring to PRS vs (CTR with shot shock), PRS fitts the same way an A2 stock does

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:10 PM   #17
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A "sniper" rifle as you put it, that wants to employ clip-on night vision such as the PVS-27 need a 12 o'clock position rail.

Well put , touche

If you have a practical use for a NOD though, I mean Civilians don't really need one

Cant you put 12 o clock rail on top of the JAE?




Edit: Oh those upper rails only fit GI contour barrels, oh ok makes sense good point :)

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:47 PM   #18
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Well put , touche

If you have a practical use for a NOD though, I mean Civilians don't really need one

Cant you put 12 o clock rail on top of the JAE?




Edit: Oh those upper rails only fit GI contour barrels, oh ok makes sense good point :)
Not to jack these thread, but, why don't civilians need nods?????????

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 03:05 PM   #19
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Not to jack these thread, but, why don't civilians need nods?????????
You know to so the communists can take over easier. So they don't have to worry about civvies shooting them at night

Night Optical Devices are frowned upon in Canada, were more into Cow Boy Action shooting lol

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 03:15 PM   #20
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You know to so the communists can take over easier. So they don't have to worry about civvies shooting them at night

Night Optical Devices are frowned upon in Canada, were more into Cow Boy Action shooting lol
If I ever decide to invade Canada, I'll make sure to do it at night. LOL

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 06:36 PM   #21
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If I ever decide to invade Canada, I'll make sure to do it at night. LOL
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Old June 4th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #22
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We were referring to PRS vs (CTR with shot shock), PRS fitts the same way an A2 stock does
A2 is quite right, which threw the Enidine out of the picture. Since this WAS an Enidine thread, I was "corn-fused". It IS your thread, though, so OK, then!

Back to the "rattle-ly" Colt stock. I don't recall it being a big drama.

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Old June 4th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #23
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Back on topic though has any one else bought this buffer tube?

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Old June 4th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #24
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What is your opinion on the Enidine/ITT Shot Shock if it was put on a Sage EBR M14ALCS/CV or Troy MCS instead of the stock m4 buffer tube?

Link: http://www.botachtactical.com/enshsh.html



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70% recoil reduction apparently
70%reduction with a 12 GA. Will a semi auto .308 generate enough recoil to make that buffer tube actually work?

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Old June 4th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #25
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70%reduction with a 12 GA. Will a semi auto .308 generate enough recoil to make that buffer tube actually work?
FELT recoil is definitely reduced, even in semi-auto. Think "AR15 lightweight carbine" recoil level. Recovery time is reduced. "Shoot all day in a T-shirt comfortably" kind of reduced. I tweaked the workings of my "Frankenstock" for several years in semi, BEFORE doing select fire tests. It's particularly nice when used with lighter weight rifle configurations.

More effective than a muzzle brake, overall. Together- well, you just gotta try it!

In the traditional target shooting standing position you will still rock back a bit, mostly due to the fact that the moment arm from the butt to your shoe soles is pretty large.
It doesn't eliminate the total rearward force, but spreads it out over time.

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FELT recoil is definitely reduced, even in semi-auto. Think "AR15 lightweight carbine" recoil level. Recovery time is reduced. "Shoot all day in a T-shirt comfortably" kind of reduced. I tweaked the workings of my "Frankenstock" for several years in semi, BEFORE doing select fire tests. It's particularly nice when used with lighter weight rifle configurations.

More effective than a muzzle brake, overall. Together- well, you just gotta try it!

In the traditional target shooting standing position you will still rock back a bit, mostly due to the fact that the moment arm from the butt to your shoe soles is pretty large.
It doesn't eliminate the total rearward force, but spreads it out over time.
I would like to try one out on my custom stock but i dont want to spend $150.00 only to find out i dont like it or it does not work. My scout rifle has a Smith Ent.USCG brake on it that is very effective. I just dont see that buffer tube reducing recoil that much to justify the cost.

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I may try one, just not sure I want to add 1/2 pound to my rifle in the name of recoil reduction. I guess I feel I could add a recoil reducer inside the extension tube without letting my scope get any closer to my eye...

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Old June 4th, 2011, 05:01 PM   #28
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I may try one, just not sure I want to add 1/2 pound to my rifle in the name of recoil reduction...
A valid consideration, over which I gave much thought and, more importantly, testing. That was a tough one!

You did forego the heavy JAE stock, IIRC.

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I would like to try one out on my custom stock but i dont want to spend $150.00 only to find out i dont like it or it does not work. My scout rifle has a Smith Ent.USCG brake on it that is very effective. I just dont see that buffer tube reducing recoil that much to justify the cost.
+1. I have almost the same setup. I have an 18.5" med-weight SS Krieger on mine with the USCG Muzzle Break, new springfield fiberglass stock & I find it a very handy & manageable for recoil. But then again I'm not small by any means, 6'3" - 275 lbs., heavy athletic build with long arms & legs, big feet (14).

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Old June 4th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #30
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A valid consideration, over which I gave much thought and, more importantly, testing. That was a tough one!

You did forego the heavy JAE stock, IIRC.
Indeed I did. I know a 1/2 pound doesn't sound like much, but when I'm replacing my scope, rings and base to lose a 1/2 pound I'd prefer not to get it back. Who knows, I may pick one up and try it out later when I switch to a standard weight barrel.

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