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Old January 31st, 2011, 07:52 PM   #1
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Sage Mod 0 and Mod 1 Range Report

Sunday, Jan 30 the range was cold and raining hard, made for a great day to have the range all ourselves as we tested out a few rifles:



I used Portuguese Surplus ammo and Tula .308 steel cased ammo.





EBR Mod 0
Springfield Armory Standard
Sage International EBR Mod 0 stock
Magpul AFGII
Tangodown rail Cover
Mk 14 3 pt sling (tan)
Leupold 3-9x scope on leupold rings, using Sage Stripper Clip Rail
Sadlak Heavy Spring Guide Rod (National Match)
Titanium Firing pin




EBR Mod 1
Springfield Armory Standard
Sage International EBR Mod 1 Stock
Tango Down Rail Panel
Sadlak Spring Guide, standard weight



Yours Truly

Well, my local range is only up to 100 yards, so that is the limit at which I shot Sunday.

First, the Mod 0. Since it has a scope, it was a lot easier to get good groupings. I am not a great shot by any means, but 1" groups were doable, however I was not as consistent prone as I was in the Lead Sled. The rifle is heavy, 15 lbs with scope unloaded. It's a beast. The Mod 0 is very comfortable to shoot and I really like the ERGO grip and AFGII.

Second, the Mod 1. It started out with the Eotech 552.308XR but that was quickly removed as I didn't feel like spending the time zeroing, plus I wanted to shoot with iron sights. This is where my shame comes in. My groups prone and in the lead sled were terrible, something like 4" groups, I'm admittedly a poor iron sight shooter. The mod 1 stock is much lighter even with the eotech 13 lbs. I didn't weight it without. I do not care for the tango down grip as much, but will keep it for the time being. Same goes for the Troy Battle grip, I prefer the AFGII. I plan to buy 2 LT 608 mounts for this, one for the Eotech 522.308 and magnifier and one for a scope. I really like the color and look of the stock overall.

Hope someone finds the review helpful.

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 08:48 AM   #2
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Firstly sir,
That collection you have right that actually made me drool... onto my keyboard. Thought id let you know

Secondly, thank you for your review of the stocks (Mod 0 and Mod 1) your reviews and others on this forum are all helping me make my eventual investment into an EBR stock.

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 09:06 AM   #3
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You don't take the front bands off?

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 09:10 AM   #4
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You can wear shorts this time of year?

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 09:11 AM   #5
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Horrible as it is no. I actually didn't attached the barrel to the stock on either rifle. Wanted to try them without and am thus far happy with the results, plus I wasnt sure which stock I was keeping so I didn't want to go through the trouble of disassembling the rifle completely when one would eventually be going back into a wood stock.

Not sure if I NEED to put the screw in device on the barrel either...

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 09:30 AM   #6
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your groups will tighten up and will be more consistant with the op rod block(with bolts) and the top set screw slightly touching. torque them all to specs.

nice set!

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 09:35 AM   #7
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That's a heck of a lineup.

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 10:15 AM   #8
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You can wear shorts this time of year?
Looking at those legs he can use any and all interactions with any kind of light possible .

When you decide on one and set it up proper report back, should be a good comparison.

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 10:22 AM   #9
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Yes, thank you, the review was quite helpful, yep, nice line-up there !

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 11:36 AM   #10
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Looking at those legs he can use any and all interactions with any kind of light possible .

When you decide on one and set it up proper report back, should be a good comparison.
Hey, it's winter-ish here....nit much chance for a tan..

And I have a feeling I'll be keeping both stocks, just not the same rifles. Just gyms quote on a Winchester parts and LRB M25 build to go into the mod 1. Each stock serves a purpose I think and besides, I can afford both, so I'll keep both. Haha. It's a disease I tell you.

Once I get the new rifle, I'll most likely have the op rod block installed on it

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Sunday, Jan 30 the range was cold and raining hard, made for a great day to have the range all ourselves as we tested out a few rifles:

I used Portuguese Surplus ammo and Tula .308 steel cased ammo.



EBR Mod 1
Springfield Armory Standard
Sage International EBR Mod 1 Stock
Tango Down Rail Panel
Sadlak Spring Guide, standard weight



Yours Truly

Well, my local range is only up to 100 yards, so that is the limit at which I shot Sunday.

First, the Mod 0. Since it has a scope, it was a lot easier to get good groupings. I am not a great shot by any means, but 1" groups were doable, however I was not as consistent prone as I was in the Lead Sled. The rifle is heavy, 15 lbs with scope unloaded. It's a beast. The Mod 0 is very comfortable to shoot and I really like the ERGO grip and AFGII.

Second, the Mod 1. It started out with the Eotech 552.308XR but that was quickly removed as I didn't feel like spending the time zeroing, plus I wanted to shoot with iron sights. This is where my shame comes in. My groups prone and in the lead sled were terrible, something like 4" groups, I'm admittedly a poor iron sight shooter. The mod 1 stock is much lighter even with the eotech 13 lbs. I didn't weight it without. I do not care for the tango down grip as much, but will keep it for the time being. Same goes for the Troy Battle grip, I prefer the AFGII. I plan to buy 2 LT 608 mounts for this, one for the Eotech 522.308 and magnifier and one for a scope. I really like the color and look of the stock overall.

Hope someone finds the review helpful.
Sweet Mod 1 !!

Do the barrel bands ever get in the way?

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Great Range Report.

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Old February 7th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #13
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I'm seriously considering picking up a Sage Mod 0 to mount my LRB M25 w/ Kreiger medium weight barrel in. What would something like that set me back and should I order directly from Sage? And do they come in any colors other than black?

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I'm seriously considering picking up a Sage Mod 0 to mount my LRB M25 w/ Kreiger medium weight barrel in. What would something like that set me back and should I order directly from Sage? And do they come in any colors other than black?
check out clyde armory http://www.policeguns.com/catalog/in...p?cPath=28_225

they have the navy gray and the black. those are the only colors for that type. years ago they had the brown m39 but that wasa limited run.

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Old February 7th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #15
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I'm seriously considering picking up a Sage Mod 0 to mount my LRB M25 w/ Kreiger medium weight barrel in. What would something like that set me back and should I order directly from Sage? And do they come in any colors other than black?
I would say order from Clyde Armory and go with the Navy Seal Gray MOD 0 but that is just my personal opinion. It is the same as a standard ALCS (MOD 0) stock but I like the Gray color as opposed to plain black.

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