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Old May 19th, 2010, 03:26 PM   #1
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To rear lug or not to rear lug?

I am going to place an order with LRB, and need to decide on the receiver. I intend on ordering the M25, and using a JAE 100 G2 as the stock. Can you all advise me as to what model of M25? Rear lug or no? What are the pro's and con's?

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Old May 19th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #2
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No rear lug for JAE stock. If using a traditional stock, a rear lug is preferred as it aids in bedding. JAE's and SAGE's are better with no lug.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #3
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Actually the JAE G2 accepts the rear lug perfectly, but it is not really necessary.

I have both my G2's with rear lug M25's and I did that to add as much weight as I could. Also, I thought that you never know what you might do in the future, so I wanted the lugs.

The Sage definitely can't take the lugs.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 04:40 PM   #4
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Sorry T I am with leadbug on this one. I am going the same thing. Just nice knowing its there if I ever get the itch to change the configuration.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #5
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Ditto leadbug and 82nd.

Ya never know when/if you may want a more traditional (wood/fiberglass) stock, where having the rear lug will be to your advantage.


Besides, if you're going to blow $1K+ on an LRB M-25 receiver, and another $1.5K (+/-) on a GEN II, what's a few more dollars for the rear lug?


(Yeah, I have a rear-lugged LRB M-25 ready to go into a GEN II.)

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Old May 19th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #6
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Unless I was ordering for specifically for a Sage stock anything I order here on in will be lugged.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 05:32 PM   #7
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Ditto leadbug and 82nd.

Ya never know when/if you may want a more traditional (wood/fiberglass) stock, where having the rear lug will be to your advantage.


Besides, if you're going to blow $1K+ on an LRB M-25 receiver, and another $1.5K (+/-) on a GEN II, what's a few more dollars for the rear lug?


(Yeah, I have a rear-lugged LRB M-25 ready to go into a GEN II.)
This is exactly my thinking as well. I have a lugged m25 on order right now. At the moment I'm planning on putting it in a JAE but I can't say for sure how it's going to end up or what I want to do with it the future. Yes the lug dose cost a bit more but it's still only a small percent of the total cost of the receiver, much less what the completed rifle will cost you.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 06:44 PM   #8
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G2 Stock

Thanks to all for the comments and advice. Maybe I can ask for a bit more: of the options on the G2 stock, which are most desirable? I am sparing no expense on this build.

I've loved guns all my life, but until now haven't been able to afford anything high-end and am therefore pretty much still a greenhorn. I do know this much, however, .308 is my caliber of choice....

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Old May 19th, 2010, 07:40 PM   #9
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Not too familiar with the G2 stock but I can see one in my future. As a matter of fact I just got on the list at LRB for the 6th time. I ordered another M25 rear lugged. I have it bad! Eecm14 put the bug in my veins this time.
WIth regard to the stock, Noexpert is very well versed in the
G2. Send him a PM and ask away he will give you the straight skinny. I know they had some complaints about the thbmwheel cheek rest but have since squared that away. Seeing how you are mounting an M25 action in it I would not hesitate t get the integral thumbwheel cheek riser.

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I think you need both. And an LRB M14SA for good measure.

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As a matter of fact I just got on the list at LRB for the 6th time. I ordered another M25 rear lugged. I have it bad!
You my friend are insane, but like I commonly point out at the round table in which my friends and I sit at lunch, "we're an aweful lot like misfit toys on some island."

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Old May 19th, 2010, 08:56 PM   #12
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Thanks to all for the comments and advice. Maybe I can ask for a bit more: of the options on the G2 stock, which are most desirable? I am sparing no expense on this build.
Depends on your plans... I went with just about every option they have and haven't looked back. One option I may change is switching from a 6 inch bottom rail to a 9 inch bottom rail but still undecided as of yet. I'm still waiting for the QR riser option to be released. I figured if I have it all I can always take it off if I don't need it... better to have than to want right? I did go with 4 inch side rails since nothing I would attach requires 9 inches of continuous rail. I also got the heavy barrel hand guard even though I'm using a medium barrel, it's nice they already modified it if I ever run a heavy barrel.

Basically it'll come down to want vs. need vs. cost. Gotta decide what's right for you...

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Old May 19th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #13
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I decided on the G2 with these options:

Barrel tensioner
6" bottom rail
Palm rest
Titanium lugs
Heavy Barrel handguard
Quick Detach cheeckpiece (when it comes out)

I love mine the way they are. A pair in the sniper platform, soon to have scope.

My Sage rifles will be the CQB, mount anything I want (but probably only a scope) types.

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Old May 24th, 2010, 07:19 PM   #14
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My first post here.....

I've had a M25 rear lug receiver in my safe for quite some time.

I want a pistol grip stock like a Vltor, Troy, or a Sage.

Problem is that a Vltor won't take a rear lugged, and I don't think the Troy will either, and the Troy defeats the purpose of having the M25 rails.

I'm still sitting on the fence. I know a JAE will take a rear lug.

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Old May 24th, 2010, 07:40 PM   #15
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NO rear lug! - I had 2 that i was going to build (a Fulton & a M25) i wound up selling the M25 after finally getting the Fulton done, IMO a lugged rec is more trouble than it's worth - can't just put it in a stock & go shoot, can't easily try out new stocks, a quick field stripping after a good rain is now a pain in the rear (my Fulton is with its threaded lug) - A good friend that's a armorer told me not to buy a lugged rec & i didn't listen (i should have!) Bottom line is unless you are a top level match shooter &/or fire several thousand rds a year you don't need a lug either

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