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Old March 21st, 2010, 01:00 PM   #1
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Problem with socom gas system

I recently tried a Sadelak non grooved TiN gas piston in my Socom the other day and it choked! It wouldn't feed the next round at all. This rifle has always digested everything I've fed it without problems. I'd like to find a way to get it working with the new piston and I'm thinking about a smith enterprises M14 SOCOM Gas Plug. Any suggestions?

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Old March 21st, 2010, 01:07 PM   #2
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So, what seems to be the problem with the original piston... I assume it worked OK.

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Old March 21st, 2010, 01:20 PM   #3
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Contact Sadlak and ask them, absolutely great people to deal with.

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Old March 21st, 2010, 01:25 PM   #4
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Try giving Mike Sadlak a call this afternoon or later tonight. He's usually back at the shop around 9pm EST

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Old March 21st, 2010, 04:48 PM   #5
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just curious what would be the benefit of the sadlak piston anyway. the sadlak plug I know is bigger

There is a woman here on the board that works there forget her username but she might be around for help. or call em up

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The sadlak piston has a longitudinal groove intended to allow shooting higher weight bullets without crashing the gas system. Vents more of the gas. Won't work as reliably with regular bullets. It's a match sort of contraption, not designed for regular folk. If you want TiN piston send your OEM piston out to someone for coating. Or just shoot it as is, as the original designers intended.

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Our TiN coated pistons are available either with the NM groove or without the groove.

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Old March 21st, 2010, 10:52 PM   #8
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i have one with out the grove and it works perfect....in my SOCOM2..

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Old March 22nd, 2010, 06:44 PM   #9
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So, what seems to be the problem with the original piston... I assume it worked OK.
Nothing was wrong with it. I just want to try to increase the acuracy of the rifle and the sadelak TiN pistons have a great reputation for increasing acuracy.

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Try giving Mike Sadlak a call this afternoon or later tonight. He's usually back at the shop around 9pm EST
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Thanks for the advice. I talked to mike today and I cant say enough good about the service I received!! He's sending me a piston out of one of his own personal firearms to try out to ensure that I don't get a lemon for testing.

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Old March 22nd, 2010, 09:13 PM   #11
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Nothing was wrong with it. I just want to try to increase the acuracy of the rifle and the sadelak TiN pistons have a great reputation for increasing acuracy.
Actually, if you continue reading about the mysteries of gas pistons and pay particular attention to some of the expert commentary here by Gus Fisher or Art Luppino, you will see that you *must* try different pistons in your particular gun to find the "best one" for your particular gun.

In my tests, the Sadlak piston made my SOCOM more accurate. It made my Loaded much LESS accurate. I kept the Sadlak in the SOCOM and put the well worn USGI back in my loaded and that was the best way to go for my particular guns.

It really is trial and error with pistons. No one has figured any other way around it.

And yes, the folks at Sadlak are great people to deal with!

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