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The Troy MCS or Sage EBR???

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#1 ·
Which stock would you go with and why?
I have the cash on hand to make the buy either way, but just can't decide between the two, both have many features that I like and one ot two that I don't. I'm sort of leaning towards the Troy, just seems like a more solid platform.
But, I'm very interested in hearing the pros and cons from those that already own these stocks.
Any info appreciated.
Thanks
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#2 ·
Troy MCS For Me...

After having a moderate amount of trigger time behind a Sage, all I can say is that I was impressed with it. It took the M1A mounted in it and gave it extended possibilities. It felt a bit unwieldy at first, but I was a fan shortly after pulling the trigger. I did not like cheek weld in the standard configuration and knew if I ever bought one, the buttstock would either have to go, or be modified to fit me - I found myself struggling a bit to get a comfortable, consistent sight picture, (irons or optics). I also didn't like the fact that tools were needed to field strip and that the Sage utilized a special oprod guide to lock the rifle into the stock. Other than that I liked it and hey the Navy Seals can't be wrong in their selection of this stock right?

Then I discovered the Troy MCS. In my book, it's everything the Sage is and perhaps a leap beyond. The rifle doesn't just sit in the stock, the stock wraps around the rifle. The mounting chassis is an impressive piece of engineering and the top rail attaching to the rear sight base is the icing on the cake. All optics are no inline with the barrel and can remain undisturbed during field stripping. Most impressive were the accuracy gains - especially out of my SOCOM-16 - just incredible. Everything from recoil to muzzle jump, to accuracy is just plain better...The Troy MCS has transformed my M1A SOCOM from a rifle to a true platform. Magnified optics? Throw a lever. Night Vision? Throw a lever. Lasers? Lights? Grips? Throw a lever. Electronic sight? Throw a lever. Irons? Flip them up. I realize for purists, omitting the M1A/M14 sights seems like blasphemy. I understand that feeling and one day will have a USGI tribute M1A myself - I love it. However, Troy BUIS are sublime to use, accurate and sturdy - they are a viable alternative to stock M14 sights - especially for recreational/tactical shooting. The other benefit is the fast and easy stock/grip changes and the alternatives available. Any stock or grip for the AR-15/M-16 will work. The only exception to the rule I've come across is the Tango Down vertical grip - that's it. With the MCS, you will suddenly find yourself with a rifle that has near limitless possibilities.

Lethal Addict did a nice write-up here: http://www.m14firinglineforum.com/upload/showthread.php?t=47673

Our own Tony Lawrence, (Law483) can add much more to the Troy equation than I, so perhaps drop him a line. The only thing I can finish with is that I can no longer imagine my rifle in any other stock. The Troy MCS is truly a sound choice... GI5
 
#5 ·
I got to educate my self a bit about these Troy stocks. Have a few questions like the shootnstar says. Troy Industries does have a nice website. Would like to hear from any folks who have actually humped a Rifle fitted with one of the Troy stocks around for a fair amount of time. I've had the opportunity of using the M39 Sage thing, but am sort of fond of the GI fiberglass stocks, but I could be corrupted since the standard fiberglass is what I was trained with.
So these Troy MCS are made of aluminum???
Looks like they got 100 meters of rail interface, which is good for all the gadgets I got.
 
#7 ·
Different's 12-pound analysis is just about right. I carry mine with two loaded magazines, (one on board and one on deck in a Spec-Ops Ready Fire Mode pouch). Add to that the Tripower, LaRue mount and my Harris and that figure seems about right. You will be amazed at just how little weight this unit adds to the rifle. It feels light out of the box and though you do notice a little more beef up front, the rifle balances so well that it's negated in my book.

The rails are sublime - everything is where it should be and mounting optics inline with the barrel wherever you want them is a joy. Mine came with a Tango Down rail cover standard, so not adding a vertical grip is no big deal. My Tango Down grip mounted fine and was not going anywhere, it just had some play - so make sure you opt for a vert grip that has a positive locking device.

As far as humping this rifle around, I'm no operator trudging through the desert. However, I often take long hikes while armed and recently did 11-miles with a full load and the Troy fitted SOCOM was the least of my worries. Again, the balance is so nice that with a good sling, this rifle is very wieldy.
 
#6 ·
Yes, the Troy MCS has an alloy aluminum stock body. From what I gather from reading and speaking with end users, the vertical fore grip is a personal preference accessory. If you dont' use a vertical fore grip, I suggest installing a plastic rail cover on the 6 o'clock rail to protect your hands and/or gloves.

For reference, a semi-automatic only M14 rifle fitted with an October 2006 pre-production Troy SOPMOD M14 Modular Chassis System, Magpul M93B collapsing butt stock, EOTech dot sight, Troy Industries back up iron sights and a full magazine weighed in at 12 pounds.
 
#8 ·
Traded a Sage and a JAE-100 for a Troy MCS

I traded my Sage and a JAE-100 for a Troy MCS with Tango Down grip and Magpul PRS and I'm very happy.

The Troy MCS is much better IMHO than both the Sage and the JAE-100 stocks. The Sage did a great job of improving the accuracy of the M1A but the ergonomics of its grip and cheek rest leaves much to be desired. It also requires a tool to adjust the cheek rest or to disassemble.

The JAE-100 is much heavier than either the Sage or Troy MCS. The ergonomics are very good but it doesn't improve the accuracy of an M1A the way a Sage or Troy stock does due to the way the action is secured in it.

The Troy has excellent ergonomics and improves the durability and accuracy of an M1A. It truly turns an M1A into a flexible and reliable modern day weapons platform.
 
#13 ·
Got to go with the Troy MCS

The first thing I did after ordering my M1A was contact Tony and order an MCS. I ordered before lunch, and Tony had it in the mail that same day.

I decided to go for a distance/target shooter so I went with a SAI Loaded and the MCS SASS combo. GI5

The final product:
 
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