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Old June 15th, 2017, 08:45 AM   #1
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Stock / Scope Recommendations for Socom 16

Hey guys - first time posting here. I have a Socom 16 and I would like to put a stock and scope on it.

Stock - something like the Archangel looks good to me but I am reading mixed reviews. What is your experience? Any other similar options?

Scope - leaning towards the Trijicon Accupoint 2.5-10. What would be the preferable method to mount this thing? I see various mounts ranging from $30 to $600.

Note: I'm in California so I can't use a stock with a true pistol grip.


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Old June 15th, 2017, 10:41 AM   #2
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No advice on the stock because I don't know your laws, but I put mine in a GI birch stock and never looked back.

As for the scope mount, I would recommend the Bassett, You can get a high mount that you see under for irons or a low mount. They are easily removed and require no modifications to you rifle.

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Old June 15th, 2017, 01:57 PM   #3
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If this is your first M1A, Welcome to the addiction! :)

It all depends what you want to do with the rifle and what your budget is brother. The Socom makes a great general purpose 500M rifle. Out of the box its about 2.5MOA so when you get to around 500-600M youre looking at 12-inch groups (average width of a man is 18). It IS possible to tighten them up, I got mine around 1.5 by floating the handguard, epoxying the ferrule, shimming the gas cylinder etc, But thats still not a DMR/tack-driving rifle so on behalf of your wallet & bank account Id advise you not to sink too much into stocks & glass because you will not be taking the .308 out to its limits. I think a lot of guys put a little too much money into the Socom ($1100 EBR chassis and $1200 scope) and try to make it fill a role it wasnt designed for but thats just my opinion (like the rest of my advice).

That being said: Ergonomics-wise, even though you cant have a pistol grip, are you looking for something with an adjustable LOP? Do you plan on a need for railspace for a light, bipod, sling attachments, foregrips etc? Remember its never going to be as light as it is right now so if youre going to be humping through the woods for a few days, weight may be a factor but if its just a bench toy, I wouldnt worry about it. I had mine in a VLTOR modstock for a while but ended up not really liking it as much as I thought I would and put it back into my SAI synthetic. The SAI stocks actually arent bad at all once you do some tweaking to the rifle. There are lots of traditional-style options too. Some of the guys on here put their Socoms in wood stocks and they look SHARP! I also wouldnt mind getting a John Wolfe stock or a Blackfeather, check those out for some great ideas.

The scope youre looking at is fantastic but its large and expensive and may be overkill for the Socom16. That trijicon is something Id probably put on an M1A standard or a bolt gun if I was going to be shooting very long range and doing serious calculations. Heres a few suggestions: The Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40 is just a little less magnification and field of view and runs for $200, they make some great scopes. There is also the Burris C4 in 3-9x40 which is less than half the price of the Trijicon. Both very reputable companies with great warranties and quality glass. If you dont need such a wide field of view, even a smaller lighter 1-6x scope is do-able on the Socom but it really depends on your eyesight and FOV preferences.

Now for mounting a scope on the receiver... I believe (someone correct me if Im wrong) the ARMS18 mount is optimal quality and about as low to the receiver your scope will get. I think they go for about $200 but Im not sure who sells them. There are also other options that replace your entire handguard and rear sight with a rail system which Troy and VLTOR both make a version of but they are quite a bit more expensive that the Arms18 receiver mount.

I personally went with a Burris 2-7x32 scout scope mounted forward (abt $300) and put it on QD rings because of a few reasons: Quick target acquisition just like a red dot/shooting w both eyes open, and the perfect magnification power for the Socoms sweet spot of performance (<600M) I really enjoy shooting my with Socoms irons as well which is why I did QD rings.

I kept my Socom on the simple simple side because it functions great for what it was designed to be: a light, short, intermediate-range heavy-hitter.

Whatever route you decide to go, have fun with it! All the guys here are extremely knowledgeable and will always point you in the right direction. And heres some Socom16 porn of my scout setup.
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Old June 15th, 2017, 02:40 PM   #4
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Old June 15th, 2017, 02:42 PM   #5
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I would look for a wood stock, Boyds have them finished for the M1A. You could inquire if they will custom make for the SOCOM 16. Then the Bassett scope mount either high or low depending if you want to use the iron sights with the scope mounted. The Vortex Viper line of scopes would be my next choice with a 30mm tube and 50mm objective bell to draw in as much light as possible. If you decide to go with a synthetic stock with the scope bases mounted forward of the receiver then you'll need a scope with extended eye relief.

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I prefer my Socom M1A's like this



Or like this


Scope setup is Bassett low mount - http://www.bassettmachine.com/prod_home_buynow.htm

1-8x Primary arms scope - http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-a...4sfp-acss-5-56

I use either of the two stocks with Irons or not. That is what I like about the Bassett mount. It works. And doesnt shift zero much at all when taking it off and on. And as for the primary arms scope my review can be found here.

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As for the stock you mentioned I have never used one but have held one. Not my cup of tea. And the reviews I looked up were rather mixed as well. Best to go with USGI birch/walnut or Synthetic. Other than that Blackfearther and sage ebr are great modernizing options.

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I'm with shrub on the scope and stock setup. Never could get used to the forward mount. I enjoyed my Socom but, had to let her go to get another I wanted more. I never had one single malfunction in the Socom.

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Wow - you guys are awesome. A lot of good info here in just a few hours. Thank you very much.

I'm going to read up on these suggestions and I'll let you know if I have follow up questions. Thank you!


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Wow - you guys are awesome. A lot of good info here in just a few hours. Thank you very much.

I'm going to read up on these suggestions and I'll let you know if I have follow up questions. Thank you!


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No problem. Whatever questions you got just ask away.

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I prefer my Socom M1A's like this



Or like this


Scope setup is Bassett low mount - http://www.bassettmachine.com/prod_home_buynow.htm

1-8x Primary arms scope - http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-a...4sfp-acss-5-56

I use either of the two stocks with Irons or not. That is what I like about the Bassett mount. It works. And doesnt shift zero much at all when taking it off and on. And as for the primary arms scope my review can be found here.

Primary Arms 1-8

As for the stock you mentioned I have never used one but have held one. Not my cup of tea. And the reviews I looked up were rather mixed as well. Best to go with USGI birch/walnut or Synthetic. Other than that Blackfearther and sage ebr are great modernizing options.
Killashrub,

I didn't think I had an interest in a socom until I saw this one and I really like your setup. Can you please tell me about the flash hider and how it installs.

I have to admit I like the look of wood and though your FH lengthens it looks great, has the look of all business. The best looking I've seen thus far.

Ren

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GI birch and Leupold VXR 1.25 - 4 make a pretty good combination for the shorter barreled rifles. I use this one for steel.



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Primary Arms 1-6x and Bassett low mount. Love the balance on my SOCOM with this setup. The Bassett lets you take it off quickly if you want to use the irons

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Killashrub,

I didn't think I had an interest in a socom until I saw this one and I really like your setup. Can you please tell me about the flash hider and how it installs.

I have to admit I like the look of wood and though your FH lengthens it looks great, has the look of all business. The best looking I've seen thus far.

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I really thought the proprietary muzzle break that came on the socom was just ugly. So I started looking for a flash hider. They are all ugly too except the SEI. But I wanted one that looked like a classic M14 flash hider. In my research I found this. It is a HK G28 Flash hider. Looks really good. While it does add length to the rifle it is still shorter than my scout which is all I wanted a socom for anyway. If you get the SEI Socom 16 Gas Lock, this just screws onto that. I was then able to have a standard front sight. Which added one more part in common with a M14.

https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/view...dproduct=17940

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Follow up question - are trigger upgrades a common practice around here? Or do you find the stock trigger is adequate? I'm not as seasoned as many of you are so I figure it's not necessary but I also don't mind spending some money on this thing if you think I'd really like it...


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Killashrub, I really dig that setup! When that scope is on 1x is it true 1x? No fuzzy front sight obstruction? I do love their ACSS reticle

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