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Old June 11th, 2017, 05:47 PM   #16
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Is this because of all the women in the front lines now that can't carry their load? This has to be a joke...

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Old June 11th, 2017, 05:59 PM   #17
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What happens when Hadji puts a round from his 1891 Mosin through the battery pack ?

Total Hadji investment in a 126 year old rifle and an 880 round crate of ammo ?

Less than a hundred bucks in country.

Return on investment ?

Pretty high, if he is a decent marksman.

Screw the fancy bling gear, and invest in training, training, training, especially weight and endurance training.

Only tech I have seen lately that made sense was a new body armor that let a trooper shed about 20 pounds of weight with better protection from rifle rounds - that makes sense.

High tech has it's place, but you gotta know when to apply, and how to keep it simple, cheap, and effective.

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Old June 11th, 2017, 07:36 PM   #18
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What happens when Hadji puts a round from his 1891 Mosin through the battery pack ?

Total Hadji investment in a 126 year old rifle and an 880 round crate of ammo ?

Less than a hundred bucks in country.

Return on investment ?

Pretty high, if he is a decent marksman.

Screw the fancy bling gear, and invest in training, training, training, especially weight and endurance training.

Only tech I have seen lately that made sense was a new body armor that let a trooper shed about 20 pounds of weight with better protection from rifle rounds - that makes sense.

High tech has it's place, but you gotta know when to apply, and how to keep it simple, cheap, and effective.
That's short sighted IMHO. This could possibly the future of combat.

Seems like every VA thread has someone claim they lent the government their body and it came back broken. With that said what's a few million for r&d compared to endless disability claims/medical care?

Would have great return on investment. What's the return on investment on any ordnance that we've dropped on the middle east? 2,000 lb jdam on a guy with a mosin/ak? Of course we can act like the russians in ww2 and just throw bodies at the problem rather than equip our boys with the best. I guess as long as we have "tough guys" it's irrelevant.

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Old June 12th, 2017, 12:55 AM   #19
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I firmly believe that some form of an exoskeleton is going to happen, before too much longer ~ say within 20 years at the outside. Initially the exoskeleton will be big, bulky, and heavy, with a relatively limited battery life. Those limitations will gradually improve, and ultimately, you'll see soldiers and Marines wearing an armored exoskeleton that allows them to carry hundreds of pounds of gear, with built in weapons, while travelling extremely long distances.

Just MHO, but you can see where the technology and research are going.

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Old June 12th, 2017, 02:58 AM   #20
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Just build one of these



Or one of these..........


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Old June 12th, 2017, 04:38 AM   #21
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Howdy Buckeroos,

What about dead batteries or EMP?

In the weapons department, I only have one
device that requires a battery.
It has an etched reticle in case the battery poops out - being
a Leupold Prismatic, it will surely run down at the wrong time.

Call me old fashioned, go ahead, it won't hurt my feelings.

As for helping the disabled - you bet, that is where this research
money should go.

Train our military personnel so they do not have to depend on
fragile equipment.
And issue equipment that is both effective and reliable.

Never having served, it seems that the survivability of our people trumps gadgets.

Keep yer powder dry and have lots of spare batteries on hand,

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Old June 12th, 2017, 05:48 AM   #22
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How does that "lessen the burden" if you now have to carry both the appendage AND the rifle?

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Old June 12th, 2017, 07:59 AM   #23
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If they perfect this system I don't doubt it could be useful, but back to the first pic, that dude is holding a only a rifle.

Military technology almost always trickles down to civi's, and that's were all this might pay off.

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Old June 12th, 2017, 08:49 AM   #24
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There are countless billions of dollars spent on R&D for military weapons. Some of you can make fun of this now, but I'm thankful we have people smarter than me working on stuff like this.

I have to wonder about FDR being told about a theoretical bomb that may or may not work to fight a war that we may or may not get into. The country was just getting over a crippling economic depression and he's confronted with having to spend billions on a project that may never pay off for a war that we weren't even in yet. On the face of it, spending that kind of money sounds like folly, but in August of 1945 no one was complaining about it.

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Old June 12th, 2017, 02:11 PM   #25
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I like the ed209 idea. Or maybe even one of the suits from robot jox.

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Old June 13th, 2017, 05:44 AM   #26
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Remember the "smart Gun" from the second Aliens Movie?

Yeah–the example shown looks impractical to folks with real-world combat experience. I respect their opinions and defer to them. , But the concept is, I think, still worth considering.

Granted; its a movie prop in a work of pure fiction, but the movie version looked like the actor could move around pretty well with a seemingly heavy weapon. Maybe this concept just needs more design and development work. Maybe the mission and application is limited or specialized.

Even if this is so impractical (likely) that it can never be used, I am glad that someone is thinking and trying out different things. One day we may have a practical powered exoskeleton and later (much later) an "Iron-Man suit".


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Old June 13th, 2017, 06:04 AM   #27
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Along the same line of concept development:

Back around 2010 or so, there was a field expedient development for a backpack that carried some 800 rounds of linked 5.56 with a feed chute to a M249. What ever happened to that?

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