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Old May 20th, 2017, 04:31 PM   #1
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Was the "Tanker" ever an issued rifle?

Just curious if the Tanker length M14 type was ever an issued rifle.


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Old May 20th, 2017, 04:33 PM   #2
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Two interesting variants that never saw service were the M1E5 and T26 (popularly known as the Tanker Garand). The M1E5 is equipped with a shorter 18-inch (457 mm) barrel and a folding buttstock, while the T26 uses a shorter 18-inch (457 mm) barrel and a standard buttstock. The Tanker name was also used after the war as a marketing gimmick for commercially modified Garands.

The T26 arose from requests by various Army combat commands for a shortened version of the standard M1 rifle for use in jungle or mobile warfare. In July 1945 Col. William Alexander, former staff officer for Gen. Simon Buckner and a new member of the Pacific Warfare Board,[46] requested urgent production of 15,000 carbine-length M1 rifles for use in the Pacific theater.[47][48][49][50] To emphasize the need for rapid action, he requested the Ordnance arm of the U.S. 6th Army in the Philippines to make up 150 18" barreled M1 rifles for service trials, sending another of the rifles by special courier to U.S. Army Ordnance officials at Aberdeen as a demonstration that the M1 could be easily modified to the new configuration.[47][49][51][52] Although the T26 was never approved for production, at least one 18" barreled M1 rifle was used in action in the Philippines by troopers in the 503rd Parachute Infantry Regiment (503rd PIR).[52]

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The Springfield Armory T44E6 had a 20" barrel, but it never made it past the testing stage. Harrington Richardson had an experimental one with an even shorter barrel. Same dead end.

I believe the Navy EBR actually uses the SAI Scout barrel.

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There was a time when you could send about $1,100 to Springfield Armory and they would "Issue" you one.
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Yep, seems like there's always at least one guy at every gun show with a table and a big story about the one they have that is the genuine article. "This one was carried in a Sherman tank with Patton's army, and you can have it for only $2K."

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OP is asking about an M14 "tanker" not an M1. I don't recall ever reading about the US ever fielding a Scout or Socom length M14 myself, anyone else?

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I believe the Navy EBR actually uses the SAI Scout barrel.
I don't know if these are really SEALs, but this is a cool photograph.


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What was that M14 that had the M60 gas cylinder on it? I thought it was made for the Navy.

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That the "Mini-G" (16" barrel)is still being bought by folks that say they really like them shows that a shortened Garand was a good idea that could have been made at the time. Never have understood why a shorter variant was never approved.

I do understand that the conversion toa box magazines was not practical as long as the BAR mags were to be used. Never understood why a new mag couldn't be designed and made for Garand receivers either then or now.

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OP is asking about an M14 "tanker" not an M1. I don't recall ever reading about the US ever fielding a Scout or Socom length M14 myself, anyone else?
They call it the SOCOM for a reason.

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They call it the SOCOM for a reason.
Surely you're joking right?

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Nope, SOCOM tried a 16" M14 in a two armed Reese style folder for a hot minute. The stock didn't do so well in the water and underperformed. Very short lived but the concept turned into our beloved shorty rifle we know so well. Early 80s if I recall.

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the m14 tanker was a commercial venture,the one lafrance by smith enterprises
used the m60 gas system
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I don't know if these are really SEALs, but this is a cool photograph.

The one on the right is a real SEAL. Real SEALS don't need no stinking magazines! One shot one kill.

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