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Old March 15th, 2017, 02:38 PM   #16
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a regular SOCOM? they can be had for a lot less than 2K

I like the idea of this group buy but I don't think there will be enough interest to make it happen. It's a chunk of change.
no in a sage ebr black stock with dcsb ! but not a hijack to this gentlemans thread. i would love to see a sopmod build.

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Don't the EBR's have their op rod guides bolted to the chassis as well?
Yes, the Sage op rod guide is held in by 3 screws

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GAP can't make enough of their GAP 10s same for any other highdollar AR10. If you make a 16" sub MOA sop mod for 3000 there will be people knocking your down for it! If it's 1 moa or more, meh.

Don't make it a SBR, that would be a niche weapon.
THIS! There are a lot of great rifles in the price range that you are looking at selling a SOPMOD for. If it doesn't perform like other rifles in this price range, it won't sell except as a niche weapon. Stay out of the SBR category but making it so it could be SBRed would be a plus to some.

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a regular SOCOM? they can be had for a lot less than 2K
True! I Mk14ed my Scout. $1100 for the rifle new, $500 for Sage NSG stock used, $100 for the DCSB, $100 for miscellaneous parts. $1800 total doing the conversion myself (it wasn't rocket science).



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I like the idea of this group buy but I don't think there will be enough interest to make it happen. It's a chunk of change.
I am not planning on doing a group buy. If I gain the assistance from Bula and Wolfe I may just produce one and put it through hell. Make any changes possible (if any) for accuracy, reliability, and weight reductions. After that, one more will be produced with the changes applied and the process repeated. Once the changes needed are done then a number of them say for instance five 16'' and five 12'' SBR's will be produced and sent out for testing and review to gun channels and company's we all love. If all goes well then a run will be conducted and see how they sell. If the testing doesn't go well then more changes and some more testing before production. I don't think much testing will be required because the design already went through a hefty trial with uncle sam and troy weeded out the problems they had.

Going through Bula assures quality parts and machining at a great price from people who know and love M14's. And going through Wolfe for quality control that you can trust and the building of the rifles which will guarantee that they will be as tight and accurate as possible.

Troy produced these rifles with a requirement of sub MOA and it will be a requirement to keep that.

Also any accuracy increasing changes that can be made to the chassis will be made if possible. I am sure if there are any, Wolfe would be able to discover them and suggest changes that will undoubtedly be done.

Speaking of changes there are a few as of now I want done to the chassis. Where the trigger group inserts into the rifle, there is a lot of extra space. Enough space to have a pin in the trigger group to walk out. I haven't had it happen but I remember during testing it happening to one person. Once they reinserted the pin it didn't happen again. Just a fluke? Maybe. But that fluke wont happen with the ones I hope to make. Another change is the iron sights. The sopmod has a terrible fat front sight obviously not for accuracy. That sight will be removed from the chassis design and the rifle will come stock with some sort of detachable BUIS most likely.

I only plan to make 12'' and 16'' versions mostly 16''. And plan to eventually make them in different colors as well. But Black will be the only one for a while to keep it simple.

The changes made if any will not effect the aesthetics of the original design.

And if all else fails and Bula turns me down I have another contact I may be able to go through. We will see. And hope. I would be truly blessed if I could wake up every day being a part of the manufacturing of M14's for people. Oh how I hope.

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Killashrub, I'm curious what material you'd be using to make the chassis. From my understanding, the original Rock SOPMOD and McCann Industries both made theirs from carbon fiber, which yielded positive reviews regarding the weight. It always seems that as soon as someone makes a lightweight stock for M14s, they're pulled before anyone gets a chance to buy them. Most all reviews I've read on the Sage EBR chassis is that it's simply too heavy. I know that things can get tricky with the copyright details, but the troy telescopic stock really made the system nice and compact. As a former combat medic (who, unfortunately, had to lug around a full length M16A2 for a year in both Iraq & Afghanistan), the compact size of the Rock SOPMOD has always been selling point for me, but not the added weight seen in the Sage EBR. Hopefully, your design will shed some of the weight and give and opportunity to folks to buy a lighter weight option

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Killashrub, I'm curious what material you'd be using to make the chassis. From my understanding, the original Rock SOPMOD and McCann Industries both made theirs from carbon fiber, which yielded positive reviews regarding the weight. It always seems that as soon as someone makes a lightweight stock for M14s, they're pulled before anyone gets a chance to buy them. Most all reviews I've read on the Sage EBR chassis is that it's simply too heavy. I know that things can get tricky with the copyright details, but the troy telescopic stock really made the system nice and compact. As a former combat medic (who, unfortunately, had to lug around a full length M16A2 for a year in both Iraq & Afghanistan), the compact size of the Rock SOPMOD has always been selling point for me, but not the added weight seen in the Sage EBR. Hopefully, your design will shed some of the weight and give and opportunity to folks to buy a lighter weight option
The original Rock SOPMODs were machined from magnesium.

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I didn't know that they were magnesium. I finished putting mine together recently. and before sending the gas cylinder, barrel collar, and flash hider out for nitriding, I weighed it, according to my bathroom scale, with an empty mag, and an Aimpoint mounted, it's around 9lbs. Looking forward to getting it to the range when the parts get back.

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I didn't know that they were magnesium. I finished putting mine together recently. and before sending the gas cylinder, barrel collar, and flash hider out for nitriding, I weighed it, according to my bathroom scale, with an empty mag, and an Aimpoint mounted, it's around 9lbs. Looking forward to getting it to the range when the parts get back.
Troy / Rock SOPMOD - New Rifle!

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I would definitely change the material to Aluminum instead of magnesium. I have quite a few changes I want to make to the design but also keep it pretty original. I'm talking with a few companies we will see what happens.

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