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Old February 9th, 2017, 01:37 AM   #1
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To DMR or Not to DMR

Hey guys, been awhile

anyway, so awhile back i was asking about optics for my SOCOM 16, and couldn't decide if i wanted to go with a magnified optic/scope or a red dot w/magnifier combo.

Fast forward to now and I still haven't made a hard decison, but I've narrowed it down to 2 options

1) A "DMR" build with a Vortex Crossfire 1-4x24 V-Brite

or

2) Slap a Red Dot on the top rail and be done with it

Only modification I've made to the rifle since I bought it in 2011 was putting a VLTOR M1-S stock on it

Just looking for some advice from anyone who has done one of these set-ups themselves

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Old February 9th, 2017, 03:18 AM   #2
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What's your definition of a DMR build? A USMC Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) build, by definition, is a match tuned M14 with a Kreiger 22" medium weight barrel bedded into a McMillan M2A fiberglass stock.

Are you looking to convert your SOCOM from 16" to a 22" and upgrading to the McMillan stock, or are you using the term DMR loosely meaning that you're just going to slap on a high magnification scope to your SOCOM in hopes of achieving better accuracy at longer distances?

Your SOCOM can still do well with a magnified optic from 300 to 500 yards, but farther than that, you're going to want the longer barrels for velocity's sake.

The SOCOM will be better suited and more fun with a lo-mag/no-mag optic. It will still be good for ringing steel under 300 yards and will still be an effective hunting rifle.

If you're looking to do a major overhaul to your SOCOM and change the barrel, etc, then you may want to sell it and do a custom long range build with a dedicated optics receiver like an LRB M25 receiver or a Bula XM21 receiver.

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+1 to Tonyben, I was going to say do a DMR rifle but not as a Socom.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 05:59 AM   #4
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My recommendation, keep the socom as is, build a DMR!

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My recommendation, keep the socom as is, build a DMR!
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Old February 10th, 2017, 07:59 AM   #6
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Keep your SOCOM a SOCOM, use that scout rail it came with, and the original light weight stock. It was designed to keep the weight off and be a quick rifle. There are a lot of awesome lomag scout scopes to use. As Tony said, BUILD a specific DMR rifle, don't repurpose a rifle that wasn't designed for long range.



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Old February 10th, 2017, 08:09 AM   #7
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Your going to have to build a new rifle im sorry

The socom isn't the best host for a dmr. Plus if you Change to a new barrel on the socom I think you need a new gas system too? Correct me if I'm wrong.

But if you want to turn your socom into a dmr, I would recommend ditching the forward rail.
Get a proper scope mount, cheek pad, and a decent scope that won't get beat to crap by the m1a. For cool factor slap a bipod. And shoot the darn thing!

Plus look at stiffer stocks. Boyd's, McMillan, or chassis.

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Throw a suppressor on the socom and put it in an ebr chassis. You can hit pretty far with that.

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M21 DMR with Leupold VX-R patrol 1.25 - 4. Love the scope.





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Keep it short and build another for long range.

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I run a t2 on my sage set up and have no complaints with it. Nice set up imo. A little unorthodox but that never hurt anyone lol

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What's your definition of a DMR build? A USMC Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) build, by definition, is a match tuned M14 with a Kreiger 22" medium weight barrel bedded into a McMillan M2A fiberglass stock.

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This is how I define a DMR.

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What's your definition of a DMR build? A USMC Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) build, by definition, is a match tuned M14 with a Kreiger 22" medium weight barrel bedded into a McMillan M2A fiberglass stock.


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I would include the Army M14 EBR-RI, M39 EMR, and the Mk14s in there too.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:34 PM   #14
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Start from scratch with another rifle.

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