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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:02 AM   #1
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An XM-21 Solution???

Hi,
One of my future builds is a BULA XM-21 SAGE build.

This receiver of course has no rear sights only has a rail for a scope.

The downside to this is if the scope gets damaged then your without even iron sights....

I think I found the solution and you guys have probably known/used this set up but I'm usually the last to know!

Here is a pic of the set up on a bolt rifle but seems to be the answer to me and would be quicker in a CQB situation also!

A win/win, to me!
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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:18 AM   #2
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http://shop.m-14parts.com/Bula-Defen...r-10115-01.htm


http://www.m14br.com/JRA/m21.jpg

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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:23 AM   #3
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Nice. I have seen a Fastfire III mounted on a 45deg mnt next to the scope on the left side too.
Not intending to challenge anybody with my toys, I don't see the need.

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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:39 AM   #4
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Wow! Can't keep a good man down I guess!

There's no one asleep at the wheel at BULA!

I'm going to keep my XM-21 Receiver and matching logo bolt.

I'll use the little red dot for a back up and call it good!

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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:47 AM   #5
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Wow! Can't keep a good man down I guess!

There's no one asleep at the wheel at BULA!

I'm going to keep my XM-21 Receiver and matching logo bolt.

I'll use the little red dot for a back up and call it good!
If you are talking about me, I am just a buyer and user of Bula products. Nothing to do with them.

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Old January 8th, 2017, 10:06 AM   #6
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You'd be looking at a chin weld.... or maybe even a throat "weld" on that stock when shouldering for that red dot though, eh? :)

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Old January 8th, 2017, 10:08 AM   #7
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Does the dmr21 match the height of the sage chassis rail? I think that was the point of the xm21 is that it's was designed to be used in a sage chassis because of the matching rail height and I believe the intended use of the op.

Just a question, people seem to be on edge lately.... ;)

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Old January 8th, 2017, 10:31 AM   #8
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If you are talking about me, I am just a buyer and user of Bula products. Nothing to do with them.

Hi,
Actually I was talking about Jeff!

Seems there is a LOT going on at BULA!

Which is good of course!

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Old January 8th, 2017, 10:34 AM   #9
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You'd be looking at a chin weld.... or maybe even a throat "weld" on that stock when shouldering for that red dot though, eh? :)
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I'm left handed, so the red dot on the left would work for me but probably be better on the right side for a right hander.

Just lean your head over a little more pick up the dot and shoot?

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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:06 AM   #10
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Have to watch the ejection port on the right side.

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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:12 AM   #11
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This is exactly the reason why I sold my xm21 and got a m21 DMR.

The xm21 is a dedicated scope receiver and I don`t possibly see a way around it. I mean Bula can try and build something that will allow you to have a secondary on the xm21, but that seems like a bit of work when someone could just get their m21DMR or a traditional receiver and slap on a mount.

Just build another rifle

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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:19 AM   #12
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We have a very diversified collection of choices for the M-14 clones these days.
In well over 50 years of shooting scoped rifles, I have yet to have a scope fail. Could happen tomorrow now that I have made that statement.
I have a bunch of DMR21s in the heard along with LRB M-25s. I have settled using the XM21 for my last 4 builds and I think that will take care of the scoped rifle department for a long time. There is flat out no better and more solid mount for a scope on an M-14 type rifle.
And for the Sage users, the mount lines up perfectly.

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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:24 AM   #13
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seagiant: "I think I found the solution and you guys have probably known/used this set up but I'm usually the last to know!"

Well, not a "solution" I would try. Solutions solve problems w/o creating more.

Looks awkward, clumsy, and fragile to me - plus difficult to use.

A standard receiver with a mount and scope that will allow the use of iron sights still works for me.

Give it a try and let us know what you think.

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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:26 AM   #14
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If you want irons, the xm21 is not your best option. I got mine because of that. Not everyone wants irons or shoots nearly as good with them as with a scope. That is why it is wise to define the purpose of your builds before dropping any $. It's free!

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Hi,
I'm left handed, so the red dot on the left would work for me but probably be better on the right side for a right hander.

Just lean your head over a little more pick up the dot and shoot?
I'm a lefty as well so I can see what you are getting at... I've seen something like this on an AR a while back and I've also separately seen those offset irons on a scoped AR. To each is their own but I think I'd just spend a bit more on a scope to ensure its durable and then call it good. I can see what you are aiming for though and good luck, I'll be curious to see how you like it!

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