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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:37 AM   #1
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How do I make sure I don't buy a California model?

I'm very close to buying the FDE scout and want to make sure I don't end up with a California compliant model by accident.

What are the changes on an M1A to make it California compliant?

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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:44 AM   #2
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Not buying it in Kalifornia would be my first move.
As far as what's compliant it changes weekly [usually for the worse]

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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:46 AM   #3
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Look up the SKU or UPC code, usually the CA ones have CA somewhere in there.

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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:49 AM   #4
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Non CA model SKU: SPR_MA9222
CA model: MA9826CA

Or something close to it. On the internet, it is easier to find the non CA models...trust me. Took me forever to find a CA legal model

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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:56 AM   #5
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The difference between California and free state models is a muzzle brake in place of a flash hidder (sp?). I think that is the only difference.


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Old December 16th, 2016, 10:59 AM   #6
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As long as the model number doesn't have "CA" in it you are good. The difference is a muzzle break but after the first of the year the mag release or something has to change. I don't know for sure. That part of the US is that dark shadowy place I will never go to so I don't pay attention to their crazy crap.

I am lucky enough to be able to buy the ones with "LE" in the model number which happen to be around $50-$100 cheaper and come with a 20 Round Magazine.

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after the first of the year the mag release or something has to change. I don't know for sure.
Nope, we're OK for now. 'Featureless' gets to skate for at least one more year.

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Nope, we're OK for now. 'Featureless' gets to skate for at least one more year.
Well that's good. I feel bad for the people that live there. I would feel the same for Canadians being limited to 10 rounders but they get Norinco M14's so I don't feel sorry for them.

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Old December 16th, 2016, 01:00 PM   #9
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All Scout rifles made in the last 10 years or so are California compliant. Same goes for the Socom. The Standard, Loaded and Match rifles will have CA on the end of the model number.

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Old December 16th, 2016, 02:10 PM   #10
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This is where it all gets confusing. I saw this on Buds today: https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...OUT+18+308+FDE and was ready to send in a price match offer right then, but wanted to make sure it wasn't a California model first.

I emailed them and to my surprise they replied to me in the same day saying that this particular scout is California Compliant. I just want to make sure I don't drop almost $1,500 on the wrong gun. I've got no desire to go to California, and I've already got a couple 20 round mags loaded up and waiting for me to make the move on the right gun.

I appreciate the advice and if there's any more please keep it coming.

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When I was looking a couple months ago I came to the conclusion that all the M1A Scouts have a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider and are therefore CT compliant.

I would recommend going to someplace other than Buds. Rifle can be had for cheaper from other vendors and you can pay with a credit card. Many people swear by Buds but there are a plethora of reports of their shady business practices... They got me on a bait and switch but I got my money back after a long discussion with a sleazy manager... have bought 5 guns elsewhere since and I always pay less than Buds.

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I am in CA, and agreed on how it's easier to find a non-CA version in general :).

I believe all the scout models that ship new have muzzle brakes and ship with 10 round magazines, which happens to (currently) pass the CA (and other anti-gun states) gauntlet of laws. Ie. on Springfield's site, the only scout-squads I see are all brakes and 10 round mags (just different stocks). Maybe they're just goin' for a least-common-denominator type of thing here so they can consolidate/simplify their models? They *used* to have more scout models from my recollection on there, so the site must have changed since I last visited it.

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All Scout rifles made in the last 10 years or so are California compliant. Same goes for the Socom. The Standard, Loaded and Match rifles will have CA on the end of the model number.
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Teddy12b, The only real difference is CA rifles get a muzzle brake and 10rd mag. The Scout and Socom models automatically come with a muzzle brake, so the only thing you would be missing is a full capacity mag.
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Old December 17th, 2016, 06:44 AM   #14
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If you really don't need the flash suppressor with a bayonet lug, the Ca. required muzzle brake works to reduce the recoil.

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When I was looking a couple months ago I came to the conclusion that all the M1A Scouts have a muzzle brake instead of a flash hider and are therefore CT compliant.

I would recommend going to someplace other than Buds. Rifle can be had for cheaper from other vendors and you can pay with a credit card. Many people swear by Buds but there are a plethora of reports of their shady business practices... They got me on a bait and switch but I got my money back after a long discussion with a sleazy manager... have bought 5 guns elsewhere since and I always pay less than Buds.

I bought my wooden stock Scout after the election for $1560 shipped.

Sportsmans outdoor superstore and Tombstone Tactical have been my goto's

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupersto...omposite-stock

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