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Old December 23rd, 2016, 05:53 PM   #16
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+++ on Tombstone Tactical - good prices
Me too. Got my loaded from them. Shipped it quickly, easy peazy, no hassle.

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Old December 23rd, 2016, 05:59 PM   #17
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The only difference is the muzzle break Vs flash hider.

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Old December 23rd, 2016, 06:53 PM   #18
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All Scout Squads are California Compliant if I'm not mistaken. The only difference is a Muzzle Brake and a 5 or 10 round mag. Can't remember which.

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Old December 24th, 2016, 09:29 AM   #19
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I'm in California, and went through the rain-dance earlier this year in search of a Calif legal Scout Squad. As already stated by a couple of posters here, the Scout Squad sold by SAI is Calif legal (no flash hider and a 10 round mag).

The muzzle brake that comes on all Scouts is a NM reamed version, as is the front sight. If you wanted , you could install a flash hider in place of the muzzle brake, rendering the Scout Calif Illegal.

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Old December 24th, 2016, 11:11 AM   #20
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I was going to say make sure she is slightly overweight, eats meat, wears fur, and has a conservative mindset.....but then realized you are talking about M1A's...; )

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Old December 24th, 2016, 11:46 AM   #21
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I threaded into a new to me M1A this week it has a CA compliant brake. I shot it Wednesday other than not liking the look of the brake it performed well.

I still may not be able to resist changing to reamed FH with lug.

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Old January 18th, 2017, 05:08 PM   #22
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I found the Scout muzzle brake to increase the muzzle blast for the operator quite a bit compared to a flash hider. If you do not have to have the brake I would put a flash hider on it and help save your ears.

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Old January 18th, 2017, 05:29 PM   #23
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If it has a rainbow colored stock, it's probably a California model.

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Old January 20th, 2017, 07:07 AM   #24
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I found the Scout muzzle brake to increase the muzzle blast for the operator quite a bit compared to a flash hider. If you do not have to have the brake I would put a flash hider on it and help save your ears.
Assuming the Hearing Protection Act passing into the law of the land I will be replacing all that stuff so I can run a suppressor on the rifle. If it doesn't become law, I'll see how I like it and decide from there.

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Old January 22nd, 2017, 02:50 AM   #25
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I went looking for an AR10 in November 2016. My favorite shop didn't have one and would not order one. The problem was that if there were a delay in delivery to the shop which then delayed the delivery (10 day waiting period) to me until after Jan 1, 2017 it was then illegal to deliver it to me. And the shop was left with an unsellable gun due to the NEW laws that came into effect on the first of the year.

I was badly disappointed. Then he said that they did have M1As in stock, but even if I waited, the new laws had no impact on the M1A. All sold already compiled (no flash hider and only 10rd mags) and would continue to comply and all the new rules impacted ONLY AR and AK style rifles.

I had actually wanted the M1A, but prices I'd always seen were in the $2400+ range (match?). Anyway I bought the M1A with the stainless match barrel and synthetic black stock (are you sure this black rifle is legal?). Cost was about $1650.00. And I brought it home 240 hours later (not kidding, I showed up to get the rifle and was 45 minutes early by law. I went and bought a late lunch to kill the minutes).

Yes, I do hope to leave the People's Republik of Kalifornia in the near future!

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Old January 31st, 2017, 07:29 AM   #26
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Well, if it makes anyone feel better I ended getting a steal on an M1A scout in FDE. I was the winning bidder for $1,200 on gunbroker for a brand new scout. I was blown away at the deal I got. The only hiccup in the deal was that the seller's guy did a world class crappy job packaging the rifle and when it arrived to my FFL the "box" it was packed in was beat up to the point that the front and rear sights had pretty much worn through the box. I don't know why there wasn't an actual factory box, with paperwork, etc included, but the guy doing the packaging that day just popper the rifle in a crumby box and stuffed paper around it.

This is the first negative experience I've ever had with a gunbroker purchase. Thankfully the M1A is a robust enough rifle that it took all that abuse and runs like a champ. So far I've got about 200 rounds through it and have it zeroed. It has run 100% so far, and I am amazed at how nice, smooth, and soft of a shooting rifle it is.

I have a burris scout 2-7x inbound so when that gets here I'll run some different ammo and really see what the rifle can do.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 05:42 PM   #27
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The difference between California and free state models is a muzzle brake in place of a flash hidder (sp?). I think that is the only difference.


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Magazine size changes as well.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 07:15 PM   #28
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Magazine size changes as well.
I think you mean they ship with a 10 round magazine.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 11:25 PM   #29
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Well that's good. I feel bad for the people that live there. I would feel the same for Canadians being limited to 10 rounders but they get Norinco M14's so I don't feel sorry for them.
5 rounds for semi auto rifle, 10 rounds for semi auto pistol.

Don't feel bad we get a lot more practice performing our reloads.

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