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Old December 9th, 2016, 10:49 AM   #1
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I would like to get some opinions on lightening the spring on the mag release on my M1A Scout and/or getting an extended one. I just purchased a used Scout a few weeks ago and like it except for the mag release. I have a fused thumb and arthritis, and the release is very stiff. I tried lubing it and it helped, but not much. I also thought about polishing the lugs on the magazines and the top of the release that engages the lugs. Any thoughts on that?
I realize this has probably been discussed before, but I figured as a newbie, I could get some good opinions or lead me to a thread with all the info.

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Old December 9th, 2016, 05:52 PM   #2
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I'm new also

Like the title says I'm also new to the sight and the m14 Rifle. If you use the search button that searches just this sight I would be willing to bey you will find plenty of info and maybe a video. Hope this helps you some.

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Old December 9th, 2016, 06:43 PM   #3
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What kind of stock do you have on that Scout, Grumpyoldman? Are the magazines sticky or is it just the release? Is the release moving smoothly without a magazine installed?

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Old December 9th, 2016, 08:13 PM   #4
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Try this one instead of the USGI one..

This might help. The Tactical Magazine Release Latch is manufactured to original USGI specification with the exception of the thumb pad which has been enlarged and serrated to provide a faster, smoother release, and a more positive grip.
http://sadlak.com/si_mag_latch.html

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Old December 10th, 2016, 08:22 AM   #5
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The rifle has the Mossy Oak synthetic stock, but the mags are not sticking there. The mag release is still stiff even with no mag in place, even after lubing it. I thought about the Sadlak release and was wondering if anyone has used it and what they think of it. I might try taking apart the release, polishing the bearing surfaces, and taking 1 coil off the return spring. Thanks for all the info so far.

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Old March 4th, 2017, 01:55 AM   #6
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Well I have the same problem. Watching all the YouTube videos ranging from disassembly to cleaning to firing, most all show that when the mag release is depressed the mag disengages and moves slightly. Doesn't drop free, but it is not engaged and is easily pulled from the well.

My Springfield manufactured M1A is new. Just put 30 rounds through it today getting it sighted in. I have been inserting and removing the mags for weeks trying to figure why they are so sticky. When I depress the release fully with one hand the mag doesn't move. If I hold the release down the mag can be smoothly removed with the other hand as the latch is completely disengaged. But, I cannot get the mag out, as I see everyone do in the videos, by wrapping my hand around it with my thumb depressing the release and pulling down. The mag does not move as I slide my thumb downward with my fist gripping the mag, trying the extract it. As my thumb comes off the release, the mag hasn't moved so the release snaps back to reengage the mag...keeping it locked in place.

I have several different brands of mags. The Springfield one that came with it, a dozen brand new Checkmate mags, and a half dozen different ones that were cheap around the internet. None of them moves when the release is fully depressed. All seem excessively tight so that inserting and ejecting them wares the coating off the corners of the box.

Full or empty, the mags just refuse to be removed with one hand.

I have tried lightly the lubing the inside of the mag well being sure to anoint the inside corners. I have tried lightly lubing the edges of the mags themselves where I see the coating is scraped off. I have lubed the engaging edge of the release and the engaging lip of the mag...all to no avail!

It seems that the inside of the mag well is very tight keeping the mag from moving when the edge of the release disengages from the engagement point on the mag. So when my thumb slides off the lever it snaps back to engage the mag again.

I almost considered taking a Dremil to the inside of the mag well. Anyone have a suggestion!

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Well I have the same problem. Watching all the YouTube videos ranging from disassembly to cleaning to firing, most all show that when the mag release is depressed the mag disengages and moves slightly. Doesn't drop free, but it is not engaged and is easily pulled from the well.

My Springfield manufactured M1A is new. Just put 30 rounds through it today getting it sighted in. I have been inserting and removing the mags for weeks trying to figure why they are so sticky. When I depress the release fully with one hand the mag doesn't move. If I hold the release down the mag can be smoothly removed with the other hand as the latch is completely disengaged. But, I cannot get the mag out, as I see everyone do in the videos, by wrapping my hand around it with my thumb depressing the release and pulling down. The mag does not move as I slide my thumb downward with my fist gripping the mag, trying the extract it. As my thumb comes off the release, the mag hasn't moved so the release snaps back to reengage the mag...keeping it locked in place.

I have several different brands of mags. The Springfield one that came with it, a dozen brand new Checkmate mags, and a half dozen different ones that were cheap around the internet. None of them moves when the release is fully depressed. All seem excessively tight so that inserting and ejecting them wares the coating off the corners of the box.

Full or empty, the mags just refuse to be removed with one hand.

I have tried lightly the lubing the inside of the mag well being sure to anoint the inside corners. I have tried lightly lubing the edges of the mags themselves where I see the coating is scraped off. I have lubed the engaging edge of the release and the engaging lip of the mag...all to no avail!

It seems that the inside of the mag well is very tight keeping the mag from moving when the edge of the release disengages from the engagement point on the mag. So when my thumb slides off the lever it snaps back to engage the mag again.

I almost considered taking a Dremil to the inside of the mag well. Anyone have a suggestion!

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Old March 4th, 2017, 02:43 AM   #8
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The mag needs to be rocked forward as the mag release is pressed. It is not supposed to pull straight down.

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Old March 4th, 2017, 03:04 AM   #9
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When you insert magazine it needs to be done so that front hole/notch makes contact with spring guide nose and then rocked backwards to be locked in place. Reverse order for removal. Place thumb behind the release tab, squeeze and rotate magazine forward to remove magazine. Those 5 rnd. magazines are difficult to remove for nothing to get a grip on versus even the 10 rnd. or 20 rnd. By rotating forward you are enabling the magazine hole at the top front edge of the magazine to rotate off of the spring guide nose
and removal is accomplished. Probably not clear, but it's how I do mine, just a suggestion.

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Old March 4th, 2017, 03:48 AM   #10
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Old March 4th, 2017, 04:02 AM   #11
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I have issues with my hands as well, the Sadlak mag release is on both my socom and loaded stainless. The extra size gives me the leverage I need to make magazine changes with no trouble. Although it's a little bigger than the original it has never gotten in the way.

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Old March 4th, 2017, 04:45 AM   #12
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Useless info:

Mags tend to rub the side walls of the SAI polymer stocks, causing them to stick. You can take some CLP and wet/dry sandpaper and "polish" the sidewalls of the stock. You can also put 2 small pieces of aluminum flashing inside the stock recess for the receiver legs. This will spread the mag well a couple thousandths of an inch.

The top rear of the mags actually fit into the receiver. You can see the shiney spots on the sides of the mags. Use CLP in these areas until the parkerizing wears enough for smooth entry/exit.

A larger mag latch will give you better leverage, but don't lighten the spring. It will cause the latch to disengage under recoil. Put a couple of drops of CLP into the latch instead.

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Old March 4th, 2017, 06:30 AM   #13
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I have the Sadlak mag release and love it. Although it seems everyone uses their thumb to utilize it, I use the web of my hand and find it works much better for me.

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Old March 4th, 2017, 04:22 PM   #14
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Well, I can't do it with my bare hands because it really hurts the skin on my thumb and also pinches my index finger between the mag and the bottom of the rifle. But, with my shooting gloves on, using a strong forward pivoting motion the ten round mag comes out smoothly. Still friction resistance seems high, but at least it is doable. I am sure eventually the process will smooth and lighten as things wear to fit each other.

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I have the Sadlak mag release and love it...
Me, too.

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