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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #1
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Seeking Relevent Weights & Data on SAGE EBR Stocks

Hello All, I'm finally in a position to consider buying a new SAGE EBR set up for my SAI SOCOM II. Currently, I have it in a configuration very similar to a basic SOCOM 16, as I didn't really need all the rails up front. I'm trying to locate a factory guide or spec. sheet which details all the relevent weights & data pertaining to the SAGE EBR series, both the M14ALCS & M14ALCS/CV. I tend to prefer the original ALCS, but really like the lighter weight of the ALCS/CV version. ( IIRC, the ALCS/CV is lighter ? ) Basically, I'm in the same boat we all are, wanting a 7.62 NATO weapon, but without the corresponding 12+ lbs of weight to lug around. Soooo, does anyone know where I can link to the data I'm seeking ? I've already tried the SAGE website, but just can't seem to get the catalog or any of the product sheets to open up ? Any & all replies will ve very much appreciated. THANK YOU

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Old November 25th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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I think page 21 is what you are looking for............



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Old November 27th, 2012, 01:40 PM   #3
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THANK YOU, for your prompt reply. I already had that particular document in my files, but had forgotten about the weights & o.a.l. data it contained. From the information presented, it appears that you save just over 3/4's of a pound by going to the Mod 1 version, as compared to the original Mod 0 type. Personally, I prefer the older Mod 0, but with a weapon that's heavy to begin with, I guess that saving @ .75 lbs off the total is not to be dimissed lightly. That saved weight could easily cover the weight of a nice 1 X 4 or similar optic, or any of the various HWS / RDS units currently available. Hopefully, with some careful choices, I'll be able to keep the weapon's unloaded weight to just under 11 lbs !

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Old November 27th, 2012, 03:33 PM   #4
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I dunno bout the weights in the posted report.

My socom without optic or ammo was 12+ lbs in a mod 0 configuration.

I was at 10 lbs with a vltor setup - optic and ammo.

And 9 for an Armalite in same config.

I tossed the Sage EBR setup and went with the stock urban camo stock with a cqb optic and it is now just over 10.5 lbs.

It all adds up fast with all the steel in an M14 design.

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Old November 27th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #5
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Your's appears to be just like mine as.it stands right now. It's still in the SAI Urban Camo stock that it came in, & very soon it will sport an Ultimak M8 Rail Handguard. For the interim, I'll probably just mount an EO Tech XPS-2-0, & ride that set up until I can decide exactly what configuration I really want, & really need. I'm partial to the SAGE due to it's accuracy enhancement, but will also consider the Vltor assembly. It's nice to be able to reduce a weapon's OAL at will, but in my particular circumstanes, it's not an absolute requirement. Sometimes I think when setting up some of our weapon systems, we have to decide exactly what we need, as opposed to what looks good or "cool". When it's all said & done, I just may end up with what I've got right now, adding only a good 1x4 CQB - medium optic in a quality mount. Off the top of my head, a Trijicon TR24 or mid-price range Leupold scope. Any thoughts & or comments ?

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Old November 28th, 2012, 11:50 AM   #7
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Hello Guys, This document may be of interest to some of us here on the Forum. I've noted that some sites require you to pay & register to download or copy it, but I prefer to get it direct from the source. Please excuse me if this has already been posted here.

RE: "NDIA Project Manager Soldier Weapons Briefing" - National Defense Industrial Association Small Arms Symposium & Exhibition, May 23-26, 2011


It can be accessed as follows;

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2011smallar...apons_NDIA.pdf


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