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Old June 9th, 2012, 04:49 AM   #1
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Scope suggestions for Socom 16

Ok Guys I 've got a Socom 16 with the OD green sythentic stock and finally got pic rails installed for a Tang Down stubby FG and a rail mounted on the forward leftside for a tac light. When I purchased the rifle it already had a SAI side scope mount. This is my first hi-powered rifle ever other than an AK & Benelli Nova pump (had an ar-15 years ago butjust kept it stock and then sold it after a couple of years ), so I just want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly untill I really get into doing major mods to it...I guess I should say I'm learning as I go!!!

I"ve seen many of all the beautys on here and most that I have seen they've removed the rear sights when using a scope.

So I need some suggestions.....I'd like to be able to use the peep sights in addition to a scope. The top of the side scope mount rail is approximately
1/2" from the aperture, which as it sits now I can use the peeps. I'm wanting to add a scope for approximately 200-400 yards. Is this possible ? Also what sort of setup should I go with ? I realize with the 16" bbl, I'm probably pushing accuracy, but with the setup that I have I'm trying to maximize accuracy with what I have.

Also can the usgi trigger group and usgi gas tube & piston be replaced without and modifications...basically just drop-in?

In the future I will probably switch over stocks and start all over again, but for now I'm working with what I've got.

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Old June 9th, 2012, 02:24 PM   #2
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Not really a scope, but personally I would (and did) go with an Aimpoint T-1. I couldn't be happier.

From what I read here, and in my own experience, the Socom is generally not a very accurate gun. At 3 - 4+ MOA it hardly seems worth a magnified optic in my opinion. I had a 2.5 Leupold scout scope on mine and took it off. The extra weight and change in balance were not a worthy trade off for any nominal change in hit ability.

I have found the T-1 is fine for banging steel plates at 200 yards. I have not shot my Socom at a greater distance than this... as poorly as it groups (about 3.5 MOA) it hardly seems worth trying. The T-1 dot is very fast to use, works well in low light, and is great on dark colored targets like steel plates.

Personally I don't think I would bother with magnification unless the rifle was at least a 2 MOA shooter. Even then, as heavy as the gun is already, I would have a lot of reservations about the trade off to benefit ration until the gun was down in the consistant sub 1.5 MOA range.

If you want a magnified scope, the best one will depend on what it is you intend to shoot at, at 2-4 hundred yards. I assume with the Socom that small groups on paper wouldn't be the goal, so something with a max power in the 5-9 range would probably be suitable for most uses.

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Old June 9th, 2012, 02:38 PM   #3
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After a little pondering and it being a 16" bbl, I suppose or should say hoping the scope would have helped out. But after reading a lot of threads it does seem more beneficial to go with a tac scope of some sort.

I've got a BSA Contender 4-16x 40 I've had for many years sitting in a closet, and mmay just get a set of mounts just to try it out. Though I have read many posts where a lot of shooters complain about the accuracy with a scope mounted on the socom 16.

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Old June 9th, 2012, 02:51 PM   #4
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Its going to depend a lot on what you are trying to do with the rifle and what ranges you are going to be trying to be accurate at. There are many threads on here discussing the accuracy and range of the SOCOM 16. I have a Scout personally but I was very close to getting a SOCOM too. Most people will recommend a good red dot sight. Aimpoint makes a few, so does EoTech. But first figure out what the rifle is for. then choose an optic. You may not even want one. Who knows.

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Old June 9th, 2012, 03:13 PM   #5
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most people do not remove the rear sights to use a scope with the m1a.. in fact hardly anyone does, the standard mount you are using is what most people do (though they may use a different make of mount).

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Old June 9th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #6
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Id take that scope mount off their and put an Aimpoint or Eotech on it and if those don't do it for ya run the irons. Maybe change the front sight if you want but the socom is an in your face gun not a long range gun. My.02
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Id take that scope mount off their and put an Aimpoint or Eotech on it and if those don't do it for ya run the irons. Maybe change the front sight if you want but the socom is an in your face gun not a long range gun. My.02
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what he said... unless it's heavily modified like my SOCOM 16, they're not intended for long range... unless you want to go with Smith Enterprises's new 16" barrel that the owner personally told me would shoot 1" MOA at 100 yards with Hornady TAP ammo. Which is my next improvement when my barrel has worn out...

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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #8
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The Bassett high mount works well, is easy on and off, and returns to within 1/2 minute.

www.bassettmachine.com

I have a high Picatinny and couldn't be happier. Scopes aren't just to improve practical accuracy, they also help in target ID.

There are a lot of tweaking tips on here for the Socom to improve accuracy. 2MOA with ball is doable without a lot of $$$$.

The trigger is drop in. Head to the gun professionals section and surf around.


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forgot to mention swaping out the iron sights on your rifle, if you plan on using them a lot. you'll definitely see an improvement!

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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #10
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try a red dot on the scout rail, then a magnifier on a stripper clip guide rail maybe

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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #11
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I've got a Millett DMS-1....Just over a hundred rounds through it, so far for the money I really like it.

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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #12
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Or you could go topless like Dresdsen has been encouraging

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Old June 11th, 2012, 07:12 PM   #13
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If you are thinking about a conventional scope, and want to stay as light and handy as possible I would take a look as something like a Leupold 1.5-5, or the Night Force scope about the same size.

If you want a little more magnification, but still want to stay compact take a look at the Little Night Force scope that goes to 10 power or the Leupold 2.5 to 8 Mark IV with the M3 Ballistic Knobs. The great thing aboutthe ballistic knobs is once sighted in properly at 100 if you want to shoot 500 you just twist the knom to "5", shoot at 800, putthe knob on "8"..

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Old June 11th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #15
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Try the iron's, you may be surprised!

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