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Old February 19th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #1
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Sage EBR Mod 0 vs Mod 1

I went to the Sage website and I could not find any description of what a Mod 0 Sage ALCS EBR is vs a Mod 1. Can anybody explain the differences please.

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Old February 19th, 2012, 08:50 AM   #2
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The main one is the Mod 0 has the two rail standard rear end and proprietary grip, while the Mod 1 has the AR extension tube and takes AR type grips. There are other slight differences, but that's the one most will use to ID them. I will add that Mod 0's and Mod 1's are usually special production runs with special features. The usual stocks seen are the black ALCS (twin rail rear end) and black ALCS/CV (AR rear end); these are standard production run stocks.

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Old February 19th, 2012, 09:20 AM   #3
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top stock is a mod 0 and the bottom is a mod 1


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Old February 19th, 2012, 09:40 AM   #4
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Thanks. I understand now.

I saw another post referencing a Mod 2. What is that?

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Old February 19th, 2012, 09:54 AM   #5
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Thanks. I understand now.

I saw another post referencing a Mod 2. What is that?
a heavy barrel capable stock with a magpul PRS stock


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Old February 19th, 2012, 10:02 AM   #6
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a heavy barrel capable stock with a magpul PRS stock

I have a Springfield Armory Loaded with a 22 inch National Match barrel. Which Mod should I purchase? Mod 0 or Mod 1. I assume the Mod 2 is for the heavy barrel only.

Please advise.


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Old February 20th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #7
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My loaded with the medium weight barrel would not work with my mod o, I had to use my scout rifle with the light contour barrel. I have the stock that uses 6 screws in the hand guard, you will need the stock that uses 5 screws. Talk to a rep when you order so you get the correct one.


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Old February 21st, 2012, 03:12 AM   #8
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All the chassis take six screws, it's only the top rail that's different.

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Am I correct in saying that all you need to convert a mod0 sage stock to a mod1 is the buffer tube and MOE stock? are any other parts needed to get the lighter butstock on the sage chasis?

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You will also need the m4 buffer tube adapter.

The mod-1 is a special run stock with longer side rails, thicker botton rail, 2 piece hand guards, laser etched numbers on all rails and comes in either a dark gray or fde. If your stock is black then it's not a mod-1 or a mod-0.

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It looks like you have to buy a whole new rear end, not just the butstock, buffer tube and the like, you actually need to remove the 2 screws holding the mod0 butt on, and buy a whole new pistol grip assembly with the ability to accept the buffer tube and stock (mod 1 verson), right? there is no way to attach those parts (buffer tube, adaater, buttstock) to the mod 0 rear end that I have, is there?

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It looks like you have to buy a whole new rear end, not just the butstock, buffer tube and the like, you actually need to remove the 2 screws holding the mod0 butt on, and buy a whole new pistol grip assembly with the ability to accept the buffer tube and stock (mod 1 verson), right? there is no way to attach those parts (buffer tube, adaater, buttstock) to the mod 0 rear end that I have, is there?
you are correct.

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You will also need the m4 buffer tube adapter.

The mod-1 is a special run stock with longer side rails, thicker botton rail, 2 piece hand guards, laser etched numbers on all rails and comes in either a dark gray or fde. If your stock is black then it's not a mod-1 or a mod-0.
So then you can also convert a mod 1 to a mod 0 with not much trouble?

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just one screw i believe.

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Old April 9th, 2012, 05:12 PM   #15
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I was actually seriously considering trading my mod0 rear end for a mod 1 rear end with a ctr stock.

but i don't think i will because the mod 0 is better in all aspects except weight.

UNLESS You get a folder adapter then the mod 1 will fold to the side and be shorter OAL than the mod 0's very short fully collapsed position.

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