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Old December 7th, 2016, 10:46 AM   #16
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God bless those serving our nation that died that day, those that survived and all veterans of our armed forces. I am forever grateful to all of you.
My step father served in the South Pacific during WWII as an officer on a Destroyer and a Light Cruiser. He passed a few years ago at the age of 94. He was a great man. I was blessed to have him in my life.
Today is also the 27th anniversary of my marriage to my wonderful and tolerant wife.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 11:29 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by tomdokulil View Post
I would say one of the biggest reasons for this is that the high schools today do not teach World War history. Reason: They don't want to "offend" anybody! Tom from MN
Tom it's the revisionists historians that try to blame the U.S. for starting the war. -Lloyd

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In addition, the submarine pens weren't touched. You are correct sir, the attack could have been better planned. Thank God the Japanese failed.
My dad was at the sub base going to torpedo school. The sub base at that time was across from battleship row. When the attack started, he was told to go to the armory and draw a weapon. He got a BAR and ten magazines. Others after him were given weapons but no ammo... because there was no ammo. He came out of the armory in time to see the USS Arizona explode. By then the first wave was over with. During the second wave he got his chance to fired back from a pier next to where the sub USS Tautog was tied up and trying to get underway. After the second wave he said he maintained his position until early afternoon when a truck pulled up and told him to get on. The truck was loaded with sailors and soldiers and they were taken to a beach where they offloaded, given helmets and pistol belts and the sailors were told to pair off and take positions with the soldiers. He stayed there two days until command decided that Hawaii was not going to be invaded. -Lloyd

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Old December 7th, 2016, 01:01 PM   #18
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Holy smokes. Stories of individuals like that are riveting. Those details seem to get lost in the bigger picture of the day. Thank you for sharing.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 03:11 PM   #19
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Old December 7th, 2016, 03:56 PM   #20
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In this past September while having eye exam done it was determined I needed to have more examinations done and the date selected at another Dr. was 12/7. I merely said "oh, Pearl Harbor day..." The clerk looked up at me and said what does that mean??
This lady probably in her mid 50's, not a kid, actually did not know about Pearl Harbor!!
Being 12/7 I made the appointment at the other Dr. and when checking out and filling out papers, was told to date the paper and again, "Pearl Harbor day, can't forget that date..."
Again, middle aged lady and she asked what does that mean?? There are few if any other dates in America's history that should hold more significance, the only one that comes to mind is of course 9/11. The public school system is in total disarray and sad part is that the teachers themselves probably do not know about Pearl Harbor. No question that computer science, mathematics, science are critical lessons to learn while in school, but it is also super important to be a well versed citizen in America and American History should be at the top of the list for subjects of all students, regardless of their other academic pursuits. It would be met with huge resistance and legal challenges, but my attitude is that anyone voting in Presidential elections should be able to pass a basic American History exam. Reason so much resistance is simply that 50% of the 50% that do vote could not pass a basic American History test. However, it is a very safe bet that most would be able to show you how to pull up the latest music hits, Facebook, Twitter, etc., etc. on their "hand held electronic device..." Such things are certainly a product of the modern age, but see no value in them for making one a better informed citizen of America. When you are 74 you tend to have these thoughts and frankly I strongly believe both Pearl Harbor and 9/11 and those in charge at the time should be held accountable for permitting them to happen. Their answer was we did not have enough intelligence to know or predict. Well, knowing and taking appropriate action is what you are paid to do first and foremost, no excuses. I am going to go get my blood pressure pills and watch the news, Now that will calm me down.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #21
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My parents were supposed to have
their first date that day, having just
met the day before. The date did not
happen, and Dad and seven buddies
went to the Marine recruiter Monday
morning. The seven got in...two came
home. Dad was rejected because he
wore glasses. The draft board wasn't
so picky and off he went to the Army.
Gone overseas two years, ultimately
as an infantryman with Third Army in
the ETO.

I think about the impact Pearl Harbor
had on us as a nation, then, and down
through the 75 years. In our
time, only 9/11 comes close...but, not

We are such a different people. I truly
believe this is the best military we have
ever been privileged to host. But, aside
from them, and humbly, folks like us,
an incredibly large portion of the
population (especially the upcoming
generations) do not care a fig for the
sacrifices that have been made for
them, the people who did so, and the
nation we love.

Am I the only one who just does not
get it?

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Old December 7th, 2016, 04:58 PM   #22
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I don't get it either
Most of the young men and women in the armed forces are OUR children
I'll just stop right there

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Old December 7th, 2016, 05:31 PM   #23
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My contribution to this thread...

I grew up with men that served and were there! My dad's older brother served in submarines; one of my uncles was a crew chief on B-17's in Europe.
One man who I will never forget retired here and I used to 'house set' his retirement home when he went back home to Alabama for his annual vacations was a crew chief on one of the carriers during the Midway battle.
Lastly one of the men I worked for some and eventually took his job was a navigator on one of the B-29's over Japan at the war's ending...

These were PROUD and HONEST men here people and I learned all of this at their funeral ceremonies! They never uttered a word to me of their valor but the US Military sure gave them a sendoff!

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Old December 7th, 2016, 06:04 PM   #24
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After reading some of these comments, I'm going to have a sit down talk with my daughter, 17 and my son 20. I think they have a decent idea, but I'm going to make sure they have a better idea. Great respect for those who serve now and then.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #25
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"...unprovoked and dastardly attack..."

Often omitted these days.

I took a long look at my December 1941, COLT M1911A1 today.

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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:51 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by XXIV Corps View Post
On Sunday morning, December 7, 1941, the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service attacked Naval Station Pearl Harbor in Honolulu, Hawaii, without warning and without a declaration of war, killing 2,403 American non-combatants, and injuring 1,178 others. The attack sank two U.S. Navy battleships and damaged five others. It also damaged three cruisers, three destroyers, and one minelayer. Aircraft losses were 188 destroyed and 159 damaged.

75 years later, we remember the greatest generation that stood up and joined the war effort to stop a whole planet at war.

Thanks for posting. When I visited the Arizona it seemed so ironic that a beautiful place like Hawaii became a resting place for so many people on that Sunday morning. It was very quiet on the memorial and the smell of the diesel fuel leaking up changed the whole atmosphere.

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Old December 8th, 2016, 08:04 AM   #27
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