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Old June 6th, 2016, 07:19 PM   #16
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I remember Andy Rooney, of CBS News' "60 Minutes", once said, "when people say to me that human beings are mean and rotten, I tell them, GO to the cemeteries above the beaches at Normandy, and see for yourselves what one group of men did for another".

God rest their souls in eternal glory, and NEVER let their memory be forgotten!

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Old June 7th, 2016, 05:07 AM   #17
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Did you know that the time table for Omaha Beach was:

H+2 hours, the beach defenses were supposed to be reduced
H+3 hours, the assault teams (Wave 1) were supposed to have control of the beachhead to 1000 yards inland and allow hand-over of the assault to follow-on forces


By D+1, the towns of Caen in the east and Montebourg to the west were supposed to be in allied hands and the area from the road connecting these two towns to the sea were supposed to be secure.

By D+15, the entire Cherbourg peninsula was to be secure.

Cherbourg did not fall until the beginning of July, Caen a little later.

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Old June 7th, 2016, 07:42 AM   #18
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Did you know that the time table for Omaha Beach was:

H+2 hours, the beach defenses were supposed to be reduced
H+3 hours, the assault teams (Wave 1) were supposed to have control of the beachhead to 1000 yards inland and allow hand-over of the assault to follow-on forces


By D+1, the towns of Caen in the east and Montebourg to the west were supposed to be in allied hands and the area from the road connecting these two towns to the sea were supposed to be secure.

By D+15, the entire Cherbourg peninsula was to be secure.

Cherbourg did not fall until the beginning of July, Caen a little later.
What's that old military adage? Something along the lines of well laid out plans and first contact? LOL

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What's that old military adage? Something along the lines of well laid out plans and first contact? LOL
Especially true if your plans are not very realistic to start with.....

There was a story related to me about a training exercise where a Marine unit was going to do a sea-born assault. They were going over the plans, objectives and timetable for the exercise. The basic time table was that the assault begin at first light and by lunchtime they were to have secured a ridge line 1000 yards from the beach and preparing to assault an mock town a mile or so inland.

At this point the observing General interrupted, "This is schedule is great for a training exercise, but it needs to be stressed to the troops and especially to you junior officers, that this time table is ridiculously compressed. If the assault were seriously opposed, you would be lucky to have secured the beach by lunch and were preparing to attack the ridge...."

One of the problems at Omaha was the follow-on forces that were supposed to be exploiting the breakout from the beachhead were piling up on the beach with no where to go, or hide, because the breakout hadn't occurred yet, and worst suffering causalities due to fierce artillery and mortar fire. The time between waves has to be set so the your troops do not become overly concentrated on a naked stretch of beach. The situation became so bad that at H+3 (about the time the beach was intended to be secure) they had to suspend further landings, causing a traffic jam of landing craft and amphibious vehicles in the Channel...

They were a hair's breath away from withdrawing all the troops off the beach, when the breakout occurred.

And, since Omaha was in the center of the operation, Both Utah and Gold beaches would have been in serious danger of being flanked, putting the success of Operation Neptune in jeopardy.

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My father, Jack Marley, landed at Omaha Beach. He was an Amphibious Combat Engineer and was one of only two Engineers that survived from his lading craft.

I have a byf 41 Luger and a Nazi Youth knife that he took off of German Officer that he cut in half with his 1921/28 Thompson. My father entered a Bunker at the top off Omaha Beach and told me a German Officer came around the corner in the narrow hallway. The German was pointing his machine gun at my father but he pulled his trigger first and survived the encounter. When my father stepped over the body of the German he realized he had just killed an officer so he reached down and pulled the belt off of the lower half of the German's body that was no longer attached to his upper.

My father was a Sergeant for most of the War but lost his stripes at the end of the War when he put 2 MPs in the Hospital. It seems he borrowed a Colonel's Staff Car to go have a few drinks. The MPs were waiting for him when he came out of the bar. His Captain had him quickly reassigned to the 82 Airborne so he didn't get caught.

My father was in Africa as part of the Lend Lease program when Pearl Harbor was bombed. I ask him one time if he remembers what he was doing when he heard about Pearl Harbor being attacked and he told me he was playing Craps in Africa. My father's Military Jacket is short 3 hash marks on the sleeve. They also shorted him 3 months of combat time on his DD214. He has 41 months on his 214 and it should have been 44 months. He was told to leave the Home Bound Transport Ship's Boarding Line he wanted to have his records changed. He didn't think that would be a wise to do so he said F-it.

I have a bunch of stories he passed onto me about the War and what he did and saw. Some a good and some are very sad. I wish he had written a book. I do miss him.
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