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Old August 13th, 2012, 12:48 PM   #1
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Edson Range

Does anybody remember if Edson was open in the spring of '61? I thought that was where we shot as boots or is my clutch slipping?

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Old August 13th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #2
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Wish I had the answer for you, however my time on that range came 20 years later. I do believe it was an established range at that time if memory serves me correctly.

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Old August 13th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #3
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Thanks, Blacktail. We shot at Camp Mathews but I remember distinctly (?) that Edson was open during the 1961-65 period.

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Old August 13th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #4
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Camp Stuart Mesa, later renamed as Edson Range, opened for business in late summer of 1964. My platoon attended there for rifle training in 1st week of October '64.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Range

On a side note, I dropped My Daughter off there for Devil Pups last month. Spooky how little it has changed in the last 20 years.

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Wouldn't know real Marines qualed on Paris island!

From what I heard Hollywood Marines qualed while laying on their beach blankets and looking thru sunglasses.

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Thanks for the info guys. When we swap sea stories around here, I've been confusing Mathews with Edson for years and nobody's caught it, even those saltier. Next I expect to hear that brownside/greenside were really other colors and that the crested eagle actually faces left. The worst thing lately is that I have about a dozen WWII and earlier nice Colt 1911 barrels individually wrapped in a freezer bag somewhere. I saw them out laying around and since my wife and I were going away for the weekend, stashed them and forgot where.

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July 68;

I was at Edson Range in July of 1968. I recall being told we were scoring the last group to qualify on the "old" Chappo Flats "meters" range. They were going to use only the ranges at Edson and use yards.

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Charlie Echo, as an old H-34 guy perhaps you can help me out. My Son sent me some pix of a Marine H-34 on static display at Edwards AFB and the squadron painted on the fuselage is HMM-769. By the double zero on the nose it was the CO's A/C but here are no squadron colors. Blades are folded and the bird appears to have faded paint but is otherwise intact. Unless things really changed, the 769 has to be eroneous.

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I snapped-in at Edson and fired at Chappo Flats. Chappo Flats was in yards rather than meters because it was a long established range, whereas Edson was built as a "meters" range. Chappo Flats had 250 targets and at that time was the largest range in the Corps. We spent three weeks at the range and were billetted in barracks at Margarita, just alongside Chappo Flats. We were there for three weeks because our week of Mess or Maintenance was spent pulling butts at Chappo Flats. I got quite good at that, but the worst part was licking the target pasters. During the first two weeks there we would most evenings march down to the range, fill our packs with sand, and run in formation back and forth across the range, all the time singing the Marine Corps Hymn. For our week of snapping-in we were taken by cattle car each day to Edson and returned the same way. The Saturday morning prior to firing week we were taken to Edson for a final morning of snapping-in and then hiked over the hills back to Margarita. Fun days those were! I couldn't imagine at the time they would actually pay me to have all that fun! And free ammo for my M14, too!


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When we pulled butts, I could never understand why we could hear ricochets. What sticks in my mind most was that after all the Mickey Mouse crap, when we returned to MCRD we got to starch our utility covers. Laughs were few and far between in those days but I can recall times when I wished I were back at MCRD. I doubt that I'm alone in that sentiment.

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I don't remember doing mess or Maint. week. I think we spent ours fixing/repairing target holders at Edson. Three weeks on the Rifle Range was a long time however the M-14 was part of us when we left. It's been 40 yrs for me.

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Charlie Echo, as an old H-34 guy perhaps you can help me out. My Son sent me some pix of a Marine H-34 on static display at Edwards AFB and the squadron painted on the fuselage is HMM-769. By the double zero on the nose it was the CO's A/C but here are no squadron colors. Blades are folded and the bird appears to have faded paint but is otherwise intact. Unless things really changed, the 769 has to be eroneous.
769 would have been a reserve squadron. I think all the 700 numbered squadrons were reserve. Here is a link from wikipedia that is pretty good info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMH-769

Lots of the old reserve squadrons have been re-designated if not de-activated. They started out as HMR's then went to mostly HMM's then either HML or HMH depending on the aircraft they received. Here is a link to tai-codes. http://hma1369.tripod.com/tailcodes.html

Another to all things rotorblade related. http://www.popasmoke.com/

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I snapped-in at Edson and fired at Chappo Flats. Chappo Flats was in yards rather than meters because it was a long established range, whereas Edson was built as a "meters" range. Chappo Flats had 250 targets and at that time was the largest range in the Corps. We spent three weeks at the range and were billetted in barracks at Margarita, just alongside Chappo Flats. We were there for three weeks because our week of Mess or Maintenance was spent pulling butts at Chappo Flats. I got quite good at that, but the worst part was licking the target pasters. During the first two weeks there we would most evenings march down to the range, fill our packs with sand, and run in formation back and forth across the range, all the time singing the Marine Corps Hymn. For our week of snapping-in we were taken by cattle car each day to Edson and returned the same way. The Saturday morning prior to firing week we were taken to Edson for a final morning of snapping-in and then hiked over the hills back to Margarita. Fun days those were! I couldn't imagine at the time they would actually pay me to have all that fun! And free ammo for my M14, too!
I couldn't remember for sure if the change was from meters to yards or yards to meters. My platoon did Maintenance for our week. They always found something for us to do. One day I polished trucks, the next we cut and raked grass, while at the same time watching rattlesnakes. The snakes were in holes in the ground, but we could see them. After lunch break I grabbed a rake in lieu of the swing-sykle. I did have guard duty one afternoon at one of the ranges. The rest of the week I scored and carried ammo at Chappo Flats. All this time we were staying in tents at the North end of Edson. Other platoons in the series were pulling mess duty. I was spared the mess duty until I went to school. I think I'm still short a few hours sleep after all these years.

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Thanks for the memories. I was there in 92, qualifying with my M16A2.

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Thanks and a big Semper Fi! I thought it was just a number the AF had chosen randomly because the 4th MAW was the highest I could remember and that was reserve. There's another reasonably complete UH-34 D at Carswell, but that one's from 362, which was more believable. The only obvious things missing from that A/C are the avionics and the APU.

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