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Old January 24th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #1
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Marine's career threatened by controversial rules of engagement

Seriously effed up.

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Old January 24th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #2
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What a load of male cow droppings!

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Old January 24th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #3
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That is complete horseshit...what the he'll is our country coming to?

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Old January 24th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #4
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This is why the military has a leadership vacuum. As soon as someone worth a damn shows up, they ruin his career.

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Old January 24th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #5
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Can’t say I am surprised. I am disappointed in the lack of backbone and balls the Generals and Admirals in the pentagon have. I wonder what the Generals and Admirals of WWII would say of their counterparts today. I have a feeling it wouldn’t be pretty.

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Old January 24th, 2012, 10:41 PM   #6
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This is more than a travisty. This officer did his duty only to be shit upon by his CO. The CO is covering his 6 at the expence of one of his officers for no reason.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 02:05 AM   #7
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This is stupid. This man did the right thing, and he's being brought up on charges because of it. I'm not even fully understanding why there are charges in the first place, but the CO is the FIRST person that should have had his back. What the hell are they teaching in officer school these days?

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Old January 25th, 2012, 05:10 AM   #8
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By both training and temperment, Marines are doers with a goal-orientated mentality. Once committed to a tactical situation, Marines become totally committed and are there to win, pure and simple. Expecting them to perform like Army civil affairs personnel is unrealistic and inappropriate.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 05:19 AM   #9
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THIS SHOULD BE A NON-FREAKING-ISSUE!

Well done sir, good call on all that went down. this crap is just one more prime example of the crap beurocractic, politically correct minded a-holes that have permeated our upper eschlons. this is compounded by the fact that 99.9 percent of politicians are turds. its early and i cant spell wirf a dam eether. stoopid battallion commanders.

cant believe i reenlisted for 6 more years. I swear, if im ever a CSM i will not a run a BN like this. fire me- but my guys will be killing the enemy. dead all day.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 05:19 AM   #10
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Calm down everybody

This is why Blackwater was created. When one door closes another one opens. The 1LT can do the same job for 3-4 times the pay. Nobody ever said this s**t was ever even close to being fair. On the bright side at least he was 25 and not 45 when his eyes were opened.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 05:23 AM   #11
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I think this is a case of the media trying to make a story sensational by leaving out some of the facts.

What they presented makes no sense. THey claim he had permission from his commanders to engage this target, then say he was censured for it .... there's some details missing here. Our military leaders are not clueless, they do not lose faith in a man's command ability for disabling a tractor while producing no civilian casualties.

If there is someone I have no faith in, it is the media, they are liars who are there to make a sale, not provide truth.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 05:24 AM   #12
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This is not an isolated case, there are many examples of our own Soldiers and Marines that are either reprimanded or prosecuted as a result of these politically correct rules of engagement.

The rules of engagement should be this-

KILL THE ENEMY.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 05:48 AM   #13
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And we wonder why we can't seem to win any of these conflicts amy more!

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Old January 25th, 2012, 06:21 AM   #14
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So they were teenagers. What's their point? Teenagers have long been used for offensive actions in that region.

In any case, they were uninjured. I fail to see the problem.

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Old January 25th, 2012, 06:42 AM   #15
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Bizarre!

Ok, His Battalion Commander determined Lt. Waddell had violated the Rules Of Engagement by Ordering Snipers Under His Command to shoot at and disable a tractor surrounded by a group of Afghans attempting to flee with a wounded Afghan 'Bomb Maker' He HAD Permission To Shoot!

So...it would appear, that IF the Sniper(s)Could Have Gotten Off A SECOND Shot, A Mortal Shot... At The 'Bomb Maker' Target...BEFORE The Afghan's Were Able To Reach Him Or Put Him On The Tractor...
(Or, If The First Shot Had HIT the 'Bomb Maker' In A Spot Where He Was Instantly DEAD! ...That Too Would Have Avoided The Whole Fiasco!!!)

Lt. Waddell And/Or His Snipers, Could Have Received A Commendation For THAT!

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