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Old January 3rd, 2017, 06:04 AM   #16
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The pre ban is no longer applicable for almost all mfg.'s today offer what once would have been called pre ban, it is another AR15 other than the Colt name which is somewhat of a plus. Accuracy for most AR's is very good with the right loads and no reason to think the one you are looking at would not be equally as accurate. Can't tell for sure from the photos but does it have a bayonet lug?? Colt in anticipation of a ban coming down the road, which it did, started modifying their rifles hoping that would exclude them from the ban. No lug, big holes versus mil spec, left material in lower so drop in sear could not be used, etc. As in most factory AR's the trigger needs attention or replaced and would think it should be an easy 1moa rifle or better, AR's are capable of very good accuracy.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 08:39 AM   #17
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Is it a large or small pin? If large, it limits the uppers you can use in the future.
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The pre ban is no longer applicable for almost all mfg.'s today offer what once would have been called pre ban, it is another AR15 other than the Colt name which is somewhat of a plus. Accuracy for most AR's is very good with the right loads and no reason to think the one you are looking at would not be equally as accurate. Can't tell for sure from the photos but does it have a bayonet lug?? Colt in anticipation of a ban coming down the road, which it did, started modifying their rifles hoping that would exclude them from the ban. No lug, big holes versus mil spec, left material in lower so drop in sear could not be used, etc. As in most factory AR's the trigger needs attention or replaced and would think it should be an easy 1moa rifle or better, AR's are capable of very good accuracy.
Colt used large trigger group pins from the first AR15 they sold(SP1 early 1960's) until 2009 then finally started using mil spec sized pins.
When the 1989 import ban came along Colt started removing the bayonet lug, added a tool steel auto sear block and a half moon bolt carrier. After the 1994 AWB Colt stopped using the sear block and started leaving material in the receiver where the auto sear would be. Colt still does that to this day.
The Colt the OP is showing is model R6551. These have been going for about $1500.00 on Gunbroker, 2 years ago they went for $1000.00. I think the retro guys are starting to collect these raising the price.
Colt started selling a AR15A4( flat top full size 20 inch barrel) a couple years ago. These can be hard to find as Colt does model runs now making them only for a month once a year. They should be doing a run of these 02/17. They list for $995.00.

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Colt used large trigger group pins from the first AR15 they sold(SP1 early 1960's) until 2002 then finally started using mil spec sized pins.
I never paid attention, thought it was the take down pins that were different. Duh!

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I never paid attention, thought it was the take down pins that were different. Duh!
If my memory hasn't failed totally, on some Colt lowers the pivot (takedown) pins are different size, along with the fire control group pins, than USGI spec.
They thought this would make them exempt from the AWB, it didn't.

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I never paid attention, thought it was the take down pins that were different. Duh!
You are correct ,Colt didn't start using a mil spec size front pivot pin until 1989/1990. And you should see the change over period. Some had them and some didn't. Back then you could buy a rifle with mil spec pin and buy a rifle made 2000 serial numbers latter with the old over size pin.

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