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Old December 20th, 2016, 12:41 PM   #31
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I trust that you will provide an honest review of it good or bad.
Absolutely! Didn't get to the range this morning. Headed out of the country right now. Gonna shoot for Friday.

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Old December 20th, 2016, 08:00 PM   #33
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Old December 21st, 2016, 02:48 PM   #34
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Sounds like some liberals are jealous of you..
How dare you sir not buy the rifle that everyone else has..How dare you stray from the pack and be your own individual human.. That's insane you made your own decisions in life.. Don't you know u have to bend to the will of the liberal experts..
I like your rifle..I hope one day to have a juggernaut tactical.
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If you are referring to me, that's hilarious. I don't see the connection with giving helpful advice to being a liberal but whatever you say.

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Old December 21st, 2016, 02:56 PM   #35
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In addition, myself and others here obviously have the skills and tools to assemble their own AR. Many do not and don't trust themselves to do it.

Also, many LEO's are able to purchase their own AR to use on duty. I have ready policies from around the US on this and many of them specifically state that the AR cannot be "home built", but must have been purchased compete. Don't shoot the messenger, it's just what some agencies stipulate.
Also, many departments have a strict list of manufacturers you can buy from as well like Colt, Smith & Wesson, etc. I have a buddy who works for the King County Sheriff's Department here in WA and that is the case there. "Sons of Liberty" isn't on their list. I would imagine other departments have similar policies.

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Also, many departments have a strict list of manufacturers you can buy from as well like Colt, Smith & Wesson, etc. I have a buddy who works for the King County Sheriff's Department here in WA and that is the case there. "Sons of Liberty" isn't on their list. I would imagine other departments have similar policies.
Yes, I can see where some agencies would have a requirement like that. I've been a LEO, local and Federal, for over 22 years now. I own a firearms training business on the side and teach a lot of LEO's, mostly in the Southeastern US, although I have traveled around taught some in Minnesota, Texas, Oklahoma, and California.

I had a buddy that was on King County WA SO SWAT Team......haven't talked to him in many years. Your post made me think of him, I'll have to reach out.

I contacted several PD's and Sheriff's Offices down here in my neck of the woods that I know allow officers to carry a privately purchased M4. None of them have a requirement for it to be made by a certain manufacturer. Instead, they have a list of criteria and the M4 has to be inspected by one of the agency Armorer's before approval is given by the agency's chief LEO. In the policies I inquired about, all the offerings from SOLGW would be acceptable.

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If you are referring to me, that's hilarious. I don't see the connection with giving helpful advice to being a liberal but whatever you say.

How do u know I was talking about you..Self esteem issues I guess

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How do u know I was talking about you..Self esteem issues I guess
Thanks for adding a lot of technical insight and knowledge to this thread.

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Take it from somebody who knows...............and is under contract not to be specific....there are plenty of well known brands who don't make all their own parts. Maybe none of the parts.

Riddle me this.......................how many brands can make their own lower? How many can afford a hammer forge for the better barrels? You think they chrome their own barrels? Where do the screws come from? Springs?

Get real. Most of the people who tried to bring it all in-house have gone bankrupt. And had QC issues along the way.

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Take it from somebody who knows...............and is under contract not to be specific....there are plenty of well known brands who don't make all their own parts. Maybe none of the parts.

Riddle me this.......................how many brands can make their own lower? How many can afford a hammer forge for the better barrels? You think they chrome their own barrels? Where do the screws come from? Springs?

Get real. Most of the people who tried to bring it all in-house have gone bankrupt. And had QC issues along the way.
That's been my point all along; Sons of Liberty are just another rifle assembly company who put other companies parts together and charge a premium to do so. Anyone with a few punches, a vice, and a few other tools can do the same thing they do and save some money. I dont see how it would be different than what they are offering. I'm sure their finished products are good rifles but they arent reinventing the wheel. If I was going to drop the kind of cash they want for their rifles I'd get a Knight's SR-15 which actually is an improved and proven rifle.

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That's been my point all along; Sons of Liberty are just another rifle assembly company who put other companies parts together and charge a premium to do so. Anyone with a few punches, a vice, and a few other tools can do the same thing they do and save some money. I dont see how it would be different than what they are offering. I'm sure their finished products are good rifles but they arent reinventing the wheel. If I was going to drop the kind of cash they want for their rifles I'd get a Knight's SR-15 which actually is an improved and proven rifle.

Unless the SR-15 is better than the crap M110 they sold to the Marine Corps, I'll pass on KAC. Jus because a company makes their own stuff doesn't necessarily mean it's made right. I've used and handled a lot of KAC stuff and it's grossly overpriced.

There's a reason the military is dumping the KAC and going to an HK.

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The M110 had major problems with:

1. Achieving and maintaining the stated accuracy requirement

2. Maintaining zero

3. Factory KAC trigger groups were failing long before they should of. They replaced them with Geissele's.

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Old December 23rd, 2016, 01:40 PM   #45
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The M110 had major problems with:

1. Achieving and maintaining the stated accuracy requirement

2. Maintaining zero

3. Factory KAC trigger groups were failing long before they should of. They replaced them with Geissele's.
I never mentioned anything about the M110. I was talking about the SR-15; fully ambi lower, improved bolt with a 20,000 round guarantee, hammer forged barrel. I have a KAC trigger in my "bubba garage build frankengun" that has a few thousand rounds on it without any problems. I've had a Geissele SSA before and it was nice. Felt about the same as the KAC trigger.

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