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Old October 15th, 2016, 11:00 PM   #16
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The point is you are paying a premium to have a company assemble a parts gun for you that you could put together yourself and for cheaper if you can actually get the discounts you say you can. It just doesnt seem to make sense to me. I'll leave it at that.

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Old October 16th, 2016, 01:58 PM   #17
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I can't put it together for free as my time is worth something to me. I'm fine with paying someone to put it together for me because at this point I just don't want and have little spare time. If I had the kind of time on my hands where I could waste it visiting parts websites and compiling lists of parts for a build to help prove my point in an internet disagreement, I might not value my time so much.

I've built a lot of AR's over the years, mostly for my students but some for me. I was aware long before you chimed in how much time and money it would take me to build a comparable M4. I chose not to do it.

Since you have no idea whatsoever how much I paid for this M4, you have no idea if building one would cost less.

I can also do my own vehicle tune-ups, oil changes, transmission/differential/transfer case services, brake jobs, etc. on all the vehicles I own. I don't always do it myself. Why? Because oftentimes it ain't worth the time it takes me to do it.

I have a full-time job that takes me out of the country on a weekly basis. I run a successful side business that takes me away from home, usually on weekends. On the days that I am at home, and my family is it home, I would prefer not to spend it down in the basement in my shop. I'll gladly spend $400 to have someone else do a job for me so that I can spend that time with my family.

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Old October 16th, 2016, 03:59 PM   #18
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Money is time and time is money. Agree completely that having someone put it together like you want it and warranty their work is worth a lot of money to those that want it.

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I can't put it together for free as my time is worth something to me. I'm fine with paying someone to put it together for me because at this point I just don't want and have little spare time. If I had the kind of time on my hands where I could waste it visiting parts websites and compiling lists of parts for a build to help prove my point in an internet disagreement, I might not value my time so much.

I've built a lot of AR's over the years, mostly for my students but some for me. I was aware long before you chimed in how much time and money it would take me to build a comparable M4. I chose not to do it.

Since you have no idea whatsoever how much I paid for this M4, you have no idea if building one would cost less.

I can also do my own vehicle tune-ups, oil changes, transmission/differential/transfer case services, brake jobs, etc. on all the vehicles I own. I don't always do it myself. Why? Because oftentimes it ain't worth the time it takes me to do it.

I have a full-time job that takes me out of the country on a weekly basis. I run a successful side business that takes me away from home, usually on weekends. On the days that I am at home, and my family is it home, I would prefer not to spend it down in the basement in my shop. I'll gladly spend $400 to have someone else do a job for me so that I can spend that time with my family.

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Old October 16th, 2016, 04:50 PM   #19
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In addition, myself and others here obviously have the skills and tools to assemble their own AR. Many do not and don't trust themselves to do it.

Also, many LEO's are able to purchase their own AR to use on duty. I have ready policies from around the US on this and many of them specifically state that the AR cannot be "home built", but must have been purchased compete. Don't shoot the messenger, it's just what some agencies stipulate.


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Old October 16th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #20
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His money so he can buy what he wants. It's a nice rifle and will fit his needs.

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Old December 18th, 2016, 09:59 PM   #21
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Arrived a few days ago at my LGS. Haven't had time to pick it up, headed to get it tomorrow.

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Old December 19th, 2016, 07:32 PM   #22
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Picked it up and am impressed with it so far. Fit and finish is superb, everything functions like it should (and doesn't always do!)

Swapped out the furniture for some of my preferred stuff, installed a Streamlight TLR-1H, and an Aimpoint Micro T2 in a Geissele mount, along with a Blue Force Gear Vickers 2-point sling.

I may run a few rounds through her before work tomorrow.

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Old December 19th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #23
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Cmshoot, there is an $&$@&$@ in every bunch, don't let anyone get you down. Another fellow Georgian here that is looking foward to seeing a range report and hearing what you have to say about your new purchase. I think you will be very pleased with it. Lifetime warranty, bubba builds don't.

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Old December 19th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #24
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Picked it up and am impressed with it so far. Fit and finish is superb, everything functions like it should (and doesn't always do!)

Swapped out the furniture for some of my preferred stuff, installed a Streamlight TLR-1H, and an Aimpoint Micro T2 in a Geissele mount, along with a Blue Force Gear Vickers 2-point sling.

I may run a few rounds through her before work tomorrow.
As long as you like the rifle and it uses high quality parts, that is all that matters. It looks like they build a solid rifle using quality parts.

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Old December 19th, 2016, 09:49 PM   #25
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Lets see some pics

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Old December 19th, 2016, 10:15 PM   #26
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I checked out the link , it looks like a nice get up

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Old December 19th, 2016, 10:28 PM   #27
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Sounds like some liberals are jealous of you..
How dare you sir not buy the rifle that everyone else has..How dare you stray from the pack and be your own individual human.. That's insane you made your own decisions in life.. Don't you know u have to bend to the will of the liberal experts..
I like your rifle..I hope one day to have a juggernaut tactical.
Anyone got a problem with them?

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Old December 19th, 2016, 11:07 PM   #28
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I'll have pics up with the first range report. If I don't make it to the range later this morning, I'm flying out of the country for a few days. Be back Thursday and I'll get to the range on Friday for sure.

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Old December 20th, 2016, 07:46 AM   #29
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Congrats looks like it will serve you well and I'm sure you will put that rifle through its paces.

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Old December 20th, 2016, 07:56 AM   #30
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I trust that you will provide an honest review of it good or bad.

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