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Old May 20th, 2013, 09:02 PM   #1
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"solvent trap adapter" legality

I noticed on amazon an unusual trend of these solvent trapnadapters they are basically the same thing as the well known nfa item, the oil filter suppressor adapter.

While catching your cleaning solvents in an oil filter certainly sounds legal, I would discourage owning such an adapter!

The reviews are a hoot though.

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Solv...t+trap+adapter

Is that thread pitch (the inner) common to other equipment?

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Old May 20th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #2
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I don't get it. It's a thread adapter...

Maybe I'm just dense...

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Old May 20th, 2013, 09:10 PM   #3
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It seems obvious to me these are to be used as a suppressor

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...red-silencers/


The product in this videos is legal tobown with proper paperwork


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I like the idea, but I'd ask my attorney before I got one. I'd hate to "smarty-pants" myself into prison.


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i would not own one. i think it would
fall into banned parts. even if you said
it was for something else. not even
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Old May 21st, 2013, 12:56 AM   #6
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My understanding is that it's a legal gray area.

TECHNICALLY it's not a suppressor nor meant to be part of one, and as long as it's not used improperly you would probably be clear.

That being said, if you were already being arrested for some sort of firearm charge, I'm sure they would have no problem considering there to be intent, and classifying it as a part.

Think of it as a hookah. It's perfectly legal if you're using tobacco. But if you get arrested for marijuanna posession and have a hookah in your car, it's paraphenalia.


I like the concept, but not worth the liability.

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You can also buy these as a registered Class III item.

I'm not an attorney, but I suspect that owning this is not illegal, using it as a suppressor is. Any charges will revolve around demonstrating intent, or actual use.

If you have one and there are also filters on your property with holes shot in the bottom. you are likely in a bunch of trouble.

This is like owning the full auto parts for an M16. It's legal, unless you install them. If you don't own a rifle that has the sear block milled out, and does not have the extra holes in it to hold the parts, you are OK, but if you have a receiver with these features, and you have the trigger parts, even if they are not installed (ie they can be readily converted), that's bad.

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You can also buy these as a registered Class III item.

I'm not an attorney, but I suspect that owning this is not illegal, using it as a suppressor is. Any charges will revolve around demonstrating intent, or actual use.

If you have one and there are also filters on your property with holes shot in the bottom. you are likely in a bunch of trouble.

This is like owning the full auto parts for an M16. It's legal, unless you install them. If you don't own a rifle that has the sear block milled out, and does not have the extra holes in it to hold the parts, you are OK, but if you have a receiver with these features, and you have the trigger parts, even if they are not installed (ie they can be readily converted), that's bad.
ya its the hole that gets you.

the whole point of these is to attach a oil filter to a rifle barrel not to suppress but to catch and filter cleaning solvents. oh smarty pants indeed.

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Neither the feds, nor the jury, are idiots.

Claiming that you were just using it to catch solvents is not likely to fool anyone, and if I recall, it's a $500,000 fine and/or 5 years if you get it wrong .... and that just to save $200 on the tax stamp. Smart, real smart.

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BUT....if the balloon goes up, and laws no longer apply, it might be a useful amount of knowledge and skill to have. Especially on a scoped rimfire firing CB caps.

Althought to be fair, CB caps are so silent a suppressor is hardly needed anyway.

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cavman this post is not about the oil can suppressor (a legal nfa item) the video was posted for those that did not know what the legal item is. If you follow the amazon link you can see what we are discussing.

this thread is about amazon selling adapters illegally as "solvent catcher adapters"

this is not a duplicate thread!


back on topic, i think these people (something* solutions, and gunthreadedadaptors.com) have but a few months before they are raided , customer lists are take. and doors are knocked on.

would purchase of this item be enough for atf to go to a judge for a warrant to search for oil cans with holes in them.

maybe people will see the articles in the gun media and take notice.

its like if surefire were to sell their suppressors on ebay and it was up to you to file the forms. it would create "issues".


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