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Old January 16th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #1
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Downside to handstop on carbine?

I'm imagining that a handstop like the one shown here would be nice in terms of making certain that your weak hand always is in the same place. Maybe especially important with a shorter stock carbine?



http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=3...pul-AFG2-Black

I'm going with a 16" barrel but a rifle-length handguard, partly to get a longer sight plane and partly because carbine length handguards put my left hand in an awkward (for me) position.

I'm bugging you all about this detail now because it affects my choice of forend. I do NOT want a fat, heavy, rails on all 4 sides "tacticool" forend (see above), but this handstop would require at least 6" of Picatinny rail on the bottom of the handguard.

If I skip the handguard, picking a forend is much easier - all I need is a short rail on top for the front sight, a way to mount a sling loop on the side, and 2-3" of rail on the bottom in case I ever wanted to use a bipod. (Handguard might eliminate bipod option, but that's ok for this build.)

So what do you all think?

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Old January 16th, 2012, 01:01 PM   #2
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When ever you have a long gun that is shorter than the reach of your fingers, a serious handstop is a good idea. Back in the day, with short barreled shotguns we always used a "good" one.

Very short rifles and shotguns are very handy for entry use.

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Old January 16th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #3
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BTW my intent is to compile the results of these individual questions and then post a description of the entire build before I start ordering anything more than the barrel.

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Old January 16th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #4
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Use something like a Magpul MOE hanguard and then us a MVG
as a handstop. It will allow you to place rail pices where you want them also. Or use a whatever handguard you want and a Magpul RVG as a handstop.





http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG419/62

http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG413/104

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Old January 16th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #5
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I've been running a Magpul AFG2 on my SCAR and I like it so far. However, on an AR with a narrower top/bottom profile, I prefer the thumb-over the top grip and I think I'll go with a simple hand stop like this from LaRue.

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-t...op-2-piece-set





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Old January 16th, 2012, 02:54 PM   #6
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1K That looks perfect to me...

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Old January 16th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #7
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The larue hand stops are awesome and easy on the wallet. I use one on my Socom.

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Old January 16th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #8
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Thanks guys! Those LaRue handstops are very interesting & inexpensive.

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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:47 AM   #9
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Funny - just got a Magpul email this morning on this subject.

They're now making XTM handstops. I've used their XTM clip-on panels for years, and they work as advertised.

Here's the link:

http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG511

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Old January 17th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #10
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I'm imagining that a handstop like the one shown here would be nice in terms of making certain that your weak hand always is in the same place. Maybe especially important with a shorter stock carbine?



http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=3...pul-AFG2-Black

I'm going with a 16" barrel but a rifle-length handguard, partly to get a longer sight plane and partly because carbine length handguards put my left hand in an awkward (for me) position.

I'm bugging you all about this detail now because it affects my choice of forend. I do NOT want a fat, heavy, rails on all 4 sides "tacticool" forend (see above), but this handstop would require at least 6" of Picatinny rail on the bottom of the handguard.

If I skip the handguard, picking a forend is much easier - all I need is a short rail on top for the front sight, a way to mount a sling loop on the side, and 2-3" of rail on the bottom in case I ever wanted to use a bipod. (Handguard might eliminate bipod option, but that's ok for this build.)

So what do you all think?
Off the top of my head, there's a cheap way of doing this. Buy the rifle-length MOE handguards from Mapgul, and add either the AFG as pictured, or a rail section combined with either the Larue handstop or the Magpul one when it becomes available.

The MOE handguards are pretty neat, as you can bolt rail sections on them where you need them, or simply leave them off where you don't.

The AFG should bolt right up to the MOE handguard, IIRC, and altogether cost less than $100.

I've been comparing weights of rails for a couple of months now, trying to keep the weight down. DD's Omega rails are very light; however, I don't think I'd even want to think about the added weight of a full-length rifle rail. Another option is a long VTAC Extreme (or Troy TRX) rail from Troy Industries. Weight's still pretty close, though.

I use a VFG as a handstop. I've found the TangoDown stubby to do an adequate job, as it also allows me more positive control of my weaponlight (G2L in an offset mount at 10 o'clock, and I activate the light with the side of my left thumb).

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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #11
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I just discovered that our forum buddy SAPPNASTY has a review of that Magpul handstop on his blog:
http://www.locknloadblog.com/2011/11...ii-review.html

He likes it a lot.

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Old January 17th, 2012, 08:14 PM   #12
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I have 2 AR that I use AFG's on I love them. Mounting and what works best will have a lot to do with what kind of forend you want to use.

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