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January 16th, 2012, 12:51 PM
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#1 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond
Posts: 1,243
| Downside to handstop on carbine?
I'm imagining that a handstop like the one shown here would be nice in terms of making certain that your weak hand always is in the same place. Maybe especially important with a shorter stock carbine? http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=3...pul-AFG2-Black
I'm going with a 16" barrel but a rifle-length handguard, partly to get a longer sight plane and partly because carbine length handguards put my left hand in an awkward (for me) position.
I'm bugging you all about this detail now because it affects my choice of forend. I do NOT want a fat, heavy, rails on all 4 sides "tacticool" forend (see above), but this handstop would require at least 6" of Picatinny rail on the bottom of the handguard.
If I skip the handguard, picking a forend is much easier - all I need is a short rail on top for the front sight, a way to mount a sling loop on the side, and 2-3" of rail on the bottom in case I ever wanted to use a bipod. (Handguard might eliminate bipod option, but that's ok for this build.)
So what do you all think?
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January 16th, 2012, 01:01 PM
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#2 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas
Posts: 925
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When ever you have a long gun that is shorter than the reach of your fingers, a serious handstop is a good idea. Back in the day, with short barreled shotguns we always used a "good" one.
Very short rifles and shotguns are very handy for entry use.
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January 16th, 2012, 01:03 PM
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#3 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond
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BTW my intent is to compile the results of these individual questions and then post a description of the entire build before I start ordering anything more than the barrel.
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January 16th, 2012, 01:32 PM
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#5 | | Lifer
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: mountain west
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January 16th, 2012, 02:54 PM
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#6 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas
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1K That looks perfect to me...
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January 16th, 2012, 05:04 PM
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#7 | | Grunt
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: killeen, tx
Posts: 89
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The larue hand stops are awesome and easy on the wallet. I use one on my Socom.
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January 16th, 2012, 07:15 PM
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#8 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond
Posts: 1,243
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Thanks guys! Those LaRue handstops are very interesting & inexpensive.
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January 17th, 2012, 07:47 AM
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#9 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: TN
Posts: 636
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Funny - just got a Magpul email this morning on this subject.
They're now making XTM handstops. I've used their XTM clip-on panels for years, and they work as advertised.
Here's the link: http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG511 |
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January 17th, 2012, 09:35 AM
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#10 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: TN
Posts: 636
| Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTinMan I'm imagining that a handstop like the one shown here would be nice in terms of making certain that your weak hand always is in the same place. Maybe especially important with a shorter stock carbine? http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=3...pul-AFG2-Black
I'm going with a 16" barrel but a rifle-length handguard, partly to get a longer sight plane and partly because carbine length handguards put my left hand in an awkward (for me) position.
I'm bugging you all about this detail now because it affects my choice of forend. I do NOT want a fat, heavy, rails on all 4 sides "tacticool" forend (see above), but this handstop would require at least 6" of Picatinny rail on the bottom of the handguard.
If I skip the handguard, picking a forend is much easier - all I need is a short rail on top for the front sight, a way to mount a sling loop on the side, and 2-3" of rail on the bottom in case I ever wanted to use a bipod. (Handguard might eliminate bipod option, but that's ok for this build.)
So what do you all think? | Off the top of my head, there's a cheap way of doing this. Buy the rifle-length MOE handguards from Mapgul, and add either the AFG as pictured, or a rail section combined with either the Larue handstop or the Magpul one when it becomes available.
The MOE handguards are pretty neat, as you can bolt rail sections on them where you need them, or simply leave them off where you don't.
The AFG should bolt right up to the MOE handguard, IIRC, and altogether cost less than $100.
I've been comparing weights of rails for a couple of months now, trying to keep the weight down. DD's Omega rails are very light; however, I don't think I'd even want to think about the added weight of a full-length rifle rail. Another option is a long VTAC Extreme (or Troy TRX) rail from Troy Industries. Weight's still pretty close, though.
I use a VFG as a handstop. I've found the TangoDown stubby to do an adequate job, as it also allows me more positive control of my weaponlight (G2L in an offset mount at 10 o'clock, and I activate the light with the side of my left thumb).
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January 17th, 2012, 08:14 PM
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#12 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Middle TN
Posts: 1,640
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I have 2 AR that I use AFG's on I love them. Mounting and what works best will have a lot to do with what kind of forend you want to use.
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