M14 Forum

Tertle

I’m hoping that you guys may be able to help me identify the maker and or have knowledge of these rifles.

I will be honest i am seriously thinking of getting one, the stock i can get would be a non mil pistol grip moulded into the stock, thus allowing me to get one on my A cat licence. BUT first i need to work out if its worth getting.

I thought that you guys would be able to help me and give me some good advice.

The link to the retail out let and rifle is

http://www.guncity.co.nz/223-gun-cit...idp241684.html

Like i said any help or assistance will be greatly appreciated

Whatsinaname181

i will would never buy a chinese AR, mostly out of principle. go buy an american AR, rock river or bushmaster is a good place to start.

Tertle

If i had the money trust me i would, But at 6000 for a stock standard base model without optics or anything and then the "E" cat safe that i would have to get, this is an option worth exploring.

If i import then i have to surrender a similar Military style semi auto, so that way im still in the gun (poor pun i know) for 4000 easy min!

if principle was the issue then i would not own a Japanese car, let alone DVD players and 90% of the electronics made in china or japan, a couple of Mosin Nagants, German Pecar scopes, an Arisaka and lord only knows what else.

Im just curious as im not sure of the manufacturer, If it were Polytech or Norinco, then ive read some very possitive writeups, but i just have no idea who this brand is?

cachunk

Id stay away from mystery rifles, it could be a gem and it could be a real POS. Can you at least inspect it..?

boomer1983

The barrels specs sound pretty attractive to me. I dont know why they dont list the upper and lower material and if they are cast or forged. I dont think buying american would concern you at all being that your from new zealand. also it sounds like the cost to get your hands on an imported us made ar is twice the cost.

patriot armory 308

Recently i have read that Norinco was going to be making ''AR''s This Rifle is probably one of them. I hate to say it but the ChiCom's made a pretty good M-14 clone, their AR's might not be so bad.

ppcshooter1

They actually list the lower as cast but I wouldn't worry about it. All the lower does is hold the fire control group and magazine plus it's the attachment point for the stock. There's no stress on it. I can't remember the name but there used to be an AR manufacturer that had a polymer lower.

Marty

1stIDvet

Buy American. Why bother getting some Chinese shit?

ppcshooter1

I guess you didn't read where he lives in NEW ZEALAND and buying an American made AR-15 will cost him an additional $2,000 New Zealand dollars PLUS he has to give up another firearm cause he will have to import it himself.

Marty

I swear the reading comprehension skills of some members are absolutely zip!

Oxmix

Go for it. If you don't like it, sell it or trade it. Are you allowed a muzzle attachment?

Regards

Ox

Tertle

thanks guys the best ID i can do on the manufacturer is CJA China Jin Gan being the 31 factory in Bejing???? reviews say they do make very good AK clones.

As to reading comprehension ppcshooter, thank you, im amazed at times at peoples ability to read but not actually take it in.

I also appreiate peoples passion about certain things, for me i actually collect Lee Enfields and own a fair few and am biased towards them so i can understand the initial comments however to me ive never owned a rifle like this, use then ocassionally in a work role, but the expence over here for such firearms is massive,hence my questions.

again thanks to the guys who gave me some direction im going down to the store to take one apart!!!

nicholst55

Reading the specs, it sounds like a pretty decent rifle. I say if you want it and can afford it, go for it!

boomer1983

thats true. I dont see much added benifit to forging aluminium. The company your refering to is calvary arms and they were shut down by batf, something about them not serial numbering their lower till after production (im not 100% sure about that) the only thing Id be partialy concerned about is the type of alaminum that is used and thats only if I lived in a humid climate. when the m16 was first issued they used t6065 aluminum but found that in the humid climate of vietnam they coroded at a fast rate. by switching to t7075 that solved the issue. norinco did import a small amount of ar-15 type rifles before the import ban and they were said to be of poor quality.

1stIDvet

I still say he should buy American. Chinese AR-15? really? Go for it, dont say I didn't warn you.

PPCshooter, I dont see anywhere in his original post where it says anything you have typed. Stop trying to be a internet tough guy.

John Crusher

CJA built AKs and SKS rifles for the American Market as well as the M-14. They reverse engineered the M-14 and we know them as Norincos. I imagine the ARs are well built since they had who knows how many from S.E. Asia to use. I say go for it.