M14 Forum

SAPPNASTY

Part of my SBR parts arrived yesterday from the USPS...I was never so happy to see the mailman. I had to order the VLTOR upper separately from SKD Tactical because Rainier Arms was out of stock. I ordered everything else through Rainier Arms and it is estimated to arrive via FedEx on the 27th. I already have a 7.5" 1:7 barrel and it will be staying with the manufacturer until my Title 2 Form 1 comes back approved. I can't freakin wait!

Here is my SBR will look like almost exactly minus a few parts:


Here was is the VLTOR Modular Upper:

adrbe

Very nice. Any reason you chose the 7.5" and not something a bit longer? I'm going to build one as well, but for now I'm just collecting research and forming opinions. Currently, I'm leaning towards an 11.5". Convince me otherwise

SAPPNASTY

Okay that is easy...watch this video.


Honestly, what is the point of owning an SBR? Just to have? I am building mine with a SHTF scenario in mind. What is the range you would honestly engage a real target? My senses tell me shorter ranges...at 15-25 yards, do you honestly believe there will be a difference between 7.5 and 11.5? I wouldnt think so. Plus if I'm gonna pay the ATF $200, I might as well go short as I can! lol - IMHO, either would work fine...what are you thinking about building it with?

adrbe

For all legal purposes

You and I have similar motives, and I agree -- very short range use. This would be the first AR I build, or own, and I wanted something that wouldn't be too extreme. However, I want a handy close-quarters rifle and there isn't much that is handier than the 7.5". On the other hand, I've read that some people think there isn't much gained in handling when going from 11.5" to 7.5". I really need to handle them myself, and make my own decision.

I'm also worried about reliability. That's not to say that a 7.5" can't be reliable, but it might take a bit more tweaking. Since this would be my first AR, I might want to be a little more conservative. Of course, the configuration could be changed later, but it would require another stamp -- in which case you might as well get another lower and have two. If I know myself, and I think I do, that will probably be where I end up.

My current fancy is the Vltor VIS monolithic upper and Noveske chome lined barrel with the KX3 flash suppressor -- pretty close to what you have pictured. Any reason you went with the Vltor MUR instead of the VIS? Milspec compliance?

brassmagnet

Hopefully you will get a quick approval. Mine went pending Sept. 21 - I called yesterday, and it's still in the pending pile. Nice AR there. I built one in 300 AAC recently, with the DE colored furniture - stands out real nice.

SAPPNASTY

adrbe: I really liked the monolith upper...However, the cost and difficulty of install shyed me away. I have heard that they are a pain in the balls when it comes to installing the barrel.

mercman

You dogs! No SBR's in WA state, although we can have suppressors AND now mount them on guns.

led boot

I have read but have no experience to back it up...that a 7.5 would not be the best choice if a suppressor was ever to be a later consideration.
I can say from firing an AR pistol once....that a 7.5 has quite a muzzle blast/flash.

Any confirmation of the suppressor issue? Never been too interested in getting one, but obviously the short barrels would lend themselves to the idea.

xm-25

Just curious, what did you guys put in section "3i" (state why you intend to make firearm) of the application? I wrote "Reference rifle for AR-15 collection".

Javelinadave

"For all lawfull purposes" is what I have always put.

SAPPNASTY

Yeah, I put "Collector, all legal purposes"

Albud3

adrbe, You might want to check with the BATFE on that point. If my information is not out of date, once the rifle is registered as a SBR, you can change barrel lengths without having to undergo the whole process again. When I was considering making my own FA SBR (before the '86 ban), I asked the local BATF office if changing the barrel length would cause problems. The reply was that once registered as a SBR any barrel less than 16 inches was OK (and even over 16") and you could change at will without further paperwork. Of course this might have changed over the years, but a quick letter to them would eliminate any questions as well as having written proof that changes were legal.

B 2/75

6.5" upper on my AK pistol. Love it. Hits hard and fast at every range I've shot it at so far, that being up to just under 300 yards.

If I were to go the SBR route and put a stock on the thing, it would be even better!

xm-25

Thanks. I already have it for the 14.5". Thinking about an 11", maybe this Spring.

deltablack

Have to say, it kinda looks like an AR to me, but I don't know everything.