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Old March 23rd, 2017, 02:22 PM   #16
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Old March 23rd, 2017, 03:28 PM   #17
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gunbroker has one
saw three listed. two are listed as beech.

One is not stated, but it has the telltale indicator if you look at the image of the underside of the stock. I think it is beech, too.

It's item 631966311 Opinions welcome!

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Old March 23rd, 2017, 03:33 PM   #18
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If you are going to shoot in the Service Rifle class, be advised of the following. Some of the Fajen and Bishops stocks were vastly oversized and were declared illegal by NRA/CMP regs. Check your stock dimensions with the rule book. Seen here on page 8.

https://rulebooks.nra.org/documents/...R/hpr-book.pdf
They put mine in "The Stock Box" at Camp Perry when I was there 10 years ago. Supermatch w/ Fajen from the factory. It just barely shut (a passing result). If I had one additional coat of tung oil on it, it probably wouldn't have shut.

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Old March 23rd, 2017, 04:00 PM   #19
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A quick review of https://rulebooks.nra.org/documents/...R/hpr-book.pdf shows a lot of attention to the stock dimensions of the M14 but little on other service rifles. Is there some history to this?

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Old April 4th, 2017, 06:10 AM   #21
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Learn something new on this forum ever day. Back in the days before time, I took a rifle that my dad had brought back from WW2 down to a stock maker in Warsaw, Mo. to restock it-it was all scratched up and looked pretty beat up(dumb kid, didn't know what it was). The stock maker did a beautiful job. Just learned that it was Fajen who did the work. Guess I didn't do as much damage to its value as I thought-still ain't for sale at any price-it was my dad's after all.

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Learn something new on this forum ever day. Back in the days before time, I took a rifle that my dad had brought back from WW2 down to a stock maker in Warsaw, Mo. to restock it-it was all scratched up and looked pretty beat up(dumb kid, didn't know what it was). The stock maker did a beautiful job. Just learned that it was Fajen who did the work. Guess I didn't do as much damage to its value as I thought-still ain't for sale at any price-it was my dad's after all.
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From the canon,

"Unfortunately, Mr. Fajen passed away in 1998 and the company struggled thereafter. Reinhart Fajen, Inc. was then acquired by the Potterfield Group. The Potterfield family made a valiant but unsuccessful attempt to turn a profit from the plant which had moved earlier to Route 1 Box 214A Lincoln, MO 65338. Manufacturing operations were suspended in Lincoln, MO by the fall of 1998. Production of stocks for other rifles was then contracted out to several companies around the United States using proprietary CNC software programs. The equipment and inventory was sold off. Boyds' bought the stock inletting equipment from Reinhart Fajen, Inc. Springfield Armory, Inc. bought half of the remaining inventory of M14 stocks and Midway USA purchased the remainder. All of the stocks, including the M14 models, quickly sold out once it was known that the Lincoln, MO plant had ceased operating. Springfield Armory, Inc. installed stocks made by Reinhart Fajen, Inc. on M1A rifles until at least January 1999."
The trend toward synthetic stocks on rifles at the time did Fajen no favors, either.

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Old April 4th, 2017, 11:19 AM   #24
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For Beepermac: At one time, there was a trend to use very heavy oversized stocks for competition shooting. In the early 80's companies like Champion's Choice started selling oversized competition stocks and many custom stock makers produced them too. The problem was that some started looking like 2x4's rather than stocks. The CMP felt that these did not meet the service rifle requirement for issue type rifles so they came up with specific dimensions to keep rifles more service like. These rules were also adopted by the NRA and published in their rule book. The basic rule is that the stock cannot be over 2.5" wide at the receiver, 2" behind the stock ferrule, not less than 6.25" between the toe of the grip and the back of the magazine, and the stock must tapper from the receiver to the front ferrule. There are other requirements too, but these are the main ones. The late issue GI contract stocks made by Fajen were made to comply with these requirements, but they are basically made to the maximum width while maintaining a GI profile in depth.

The Marine Corps contracted with McMillan to make fiberglass stocks for their advanced marksmanship teams. Early McMillan stocks were made with a sort of wood grain texture, shallow holes to simulate the stock liner screw locations, and a rather short pistol grip. Of course they were done in woodland camo. All of these features, except the colors, were dropped by 1987. McMillan stocks are not made to the maximum allowable dimensions, but they are generally oversized and a good deal heavier than most wood stocks.

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The Fajens, all oversized, I have seen were all made of beech. Never seen a walnut
I have several Fajen USGI oversized NM stocks. Two are beech, one is walnut.

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Old April 4th, 2017, 03:18 PM   #26
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I saw a fajen style II pepper at the Folsom range north of Sacramento in the mid 90's. I thought it was both gorgeous and operational, he scored better than I.

I would love to have one or two of these for myself, one for a scout and I would build another just for that stock.

Out of curiosity what was the asking price on fleabay?

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Thanks Ted!
I assumed that there might have been some sort of stock "arms race" with the M14 that didn't occur with the other service rifles and prompted such regulations. Given the idiosyncrasies of our beloved platform and the endless quest to squeeze out the ultimate in accuracy it's not surprising.

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Old April 10th, 2017, 06:30 AM   #28
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I love the Fajen laminated stock. I have them on several rifles (both Garand and M1A)

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Old April 19th, 2017, 07:39 PM   #29
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FYI for anyone interested, this is supposedly a Fagen or Bishop NM stock used by Champion Shooters for a build circa 1992 Super Match: Vintage Fajen or Bishop heavy NM M1A walnut stock

...it doesn't have the liner. Per Ted Brown's post, I think its a "Style III" stock:

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Fajen produced three stock styles. Style I was a duplicate of the GI "skinny" contour, Style II was a medium weight stock similar to that being made by Boyds' today. Both required the use of a stock liner. The Fajen Style III stock was a heavy match stock similar to the M1A Super Match style.

All were available in three laminated color choices, camo, nutmeg, pepper, and custom combinations, as well as plain walnut. Fajen also offered their walnut stocks in higher grades.
....just an fyi, as I don't need it for my M25 project, but perhaps someone else might be interested.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 12:27 PM   #30
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Fajen's government contract included both walnut and birch stocks. They are both marked with the part number 9352638 and Fajen's cage code 77742 by the tool holes in the butt end. Walnut stocks are not as common as birch. They are inletted for receivers with a rear bedding lug, but they are not factory routed for bedding.

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