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Old December 21st, 2011, 12:55 PM   #31
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Very nice rifles!!!

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Dayum,have to go relieve my self now...

Very stimulating...

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Old December 21st, 2011, 02:23 PM   #33
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Man, those things look rugged. Aka heavy as hell.

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Old December 21st, 2011, 03:15 PM   #34
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Nothing beats "old school."

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Old December 21st, 2011, 03:27 PM   #35
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I agree! Old school is where it's at when it comes to M-14's, AR's, 1911's and motorcycles...


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Old December 21st, 2011, 04:42 PM   #36
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Those are absolutely gorgeous!I love"old school"configurations.

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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:56 PM   #37
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Very Cool!
What he said. Thanks.

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Old December 21st, 2011, 10:22 PM   #38
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Just beautiful, thanks for sharing.

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Old December 22nd, 2011, 04:48 AM   #39
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Awesome rifles!

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Old January 6th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #40
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I was the advance party for my battalion (2/504th PIR) in August of 1990 to Saudi Arabia. Two of us were issued an M21. For the life of my I can't remember who made the rifle. The optics did not fill me with confidence. The M24 at that time was just being introduced if I remember correctly. I thought Remington was ripping off the military.

I wish I had the presence of mind to pay more close attention to that rifle and telescope set up. I am now having Ted Brown build for me an M25 based on the LRB receiver. I think that it is a better solution to the mounting systems developed for the M14SA. Less error caused by tolerance stacking - if at all. I do think that it is cheaper though.

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Old January 7th, 2012, 07:40 AM   #41
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This two rifles and then add a Winchester Model 70 with heavy barrel and Unertl scope and you would have it all...


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Old January 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM   #42
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Very nice! lotta dedication is pictured there. Waiting, searching for parts,not to mention $.
Do you know why the ARTII scope was disliked?I was lucky enough to use an M21
with the original ART scope.Likely the one issued with the rifle and well used in VN.
By the time it reached my hands it had un doubtedly seen alot of service but I was still impressed by the simplicity-ranging accuracy of the scope and Rifle system.
I would think the system would still have merit for a DMR even if its ranging accuracy isnt adequate for todays dedicated sniper rifles-ranges.

Still, beatiful examples and to add to it I learned something as I usually do on this site.
I was unaware the M1 garand sniper scope had been adapted to the M14.
Thanks! pndr

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Old February 4th, 2012, 07:22 AM   #43
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Thanks for all the added comments. Sorry, I didn't notice them until now.

Ric2504, glad to hear a first hand report on the M21. Show us the M25 build once Ted is done!

grndpndr, likewise thanks for the report on your use of the M21.

I've never heard bad reports on the ART II. It was an improvement over the Ar Tel, especially with the two point mount that also attached to the stripper clip guide. I think the reason that we don't hear as much about the ART II was the timing. They came on line around 1980, so they missed Vietnam. By the mid-80's the XM25 and Brookfield Precision Tool mount was developed as a further improvement.

Here a shot of a BPT mount I have set up on an early SAI rifle as an early M25. It used the Weaver style spacing. The rifle has a TRW standard contour National Match barrel.


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As long as I am posting pictures, I'll post a few of a rifle with the M25 set-up using a Smith Enterprise mount and Leupold scope. The rifle is an SAI that a has a SAK medium weight NM barrel.


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Old February 4th, 2012, 08:15 AM   #45
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You have some nice rifles there i specally like the one with the M84 Garand scope just a question how exactly is that M84 mounted i see that it still has the cantaliver side mount for the garand but is that bolted in to a flat top on the m1a and does that mount lock in to the striper clip dove tail just woundering.

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