This is a discussion on Leather sling within the The M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Who makes the best leather sling for shooting in the different positions and where could you purchase one from?
I haven't tried a Weller or a Les Tam yet. Someday maybe.
I have tried USGI Nylon Black, 80's issue type. They're a coarse nylon weave but can slip a bit. Not as bad as the seatbelt type nylon slings of the VN era. I tried green cotton WWII repro's from Orion 7. They frayed in a few years use where the J buckle is when I sling up. I wish the weave was tighter/stronger as otherwise they're not that bad. The repro metal wasn't tempered quite right either, J buckles would bend if you're not careful. BTW the J buckle is the clip that hooks on to the lower sling loop when in it's normal configuration.
I got a Springfield Inc. leather 1907 type sling with my loaded M1a. Stay away from these. They'll work but the construction isn't the strongest. I had to buy replacement keepers from Turner as the originals were not overlapped and sewn, they merely butted the ends of the keeper leather and loop stitched it. Very weak and cheesy.
I have 3 turners now, a standard 1907, a leather NM 1907, and a biothane 1907 NM. Of the three I prefer the NM leather. I just ordered 2 more and some sling dressing due to this post. One black 54" for the AR and another NM tan leather for the garands. The biothane is a good sling, they just take too long to get set with. I have read about them tearing but I suppose they either had a flaw or someone really likes a tight sling!
I guess I've finally given up on the web slings due to wear issues. They're good and quick to use though. They're also infinitely adjustable.
I have zediker's books on Slings and Things and there a lots of variations on using the 1907 sling that are better than the standard loop sling my Marine dad taught me. I just haven't tried them yet.
Good luck on your choice.
Last edited by Nut behind the stock; September 4th, 2009 at 10:33 AM.
I have a SAI, J&H and a Les Tam. LES TAM hands down blows the other out of the water he makes an outstanding NM sling. I recently purchased the Les Tam sling and after receiving it I called and ordered another it is that good. He uses the highest quality leather from a company called Herman Oak Leather. He has a long turn time right now but well worth the wait. 5 months. You wont be disappointed and wont ever get another sling. You can order it with either riveted keepers or sewn. When I ordered the second sling I ordered a second set of sewn keepers for the first one. You can find him here. http://www.lestam.com/
Good quality leather 1907 style slings are made by:
Some 'store brands' are ok, but inspect them carefully.
Most gunshop slings are not suitable - they are too lightweight, or too narrow - the 1907 is 1.25 inch wide, and about 3/16 thick.
Some people like the Turner "biothane" slings - others don't. I recommend leather.
Expect to pay at least $50 - but you'll have a good sling that will last a long time.
The important features of a good sling are:
Strong leather that will not stretch out of shape.
Sling 'keepers' that are strong and sized to fit tightly around the sling - this is what keeps the sling secure around your arm.
Metal parts that won't bend out of shape.
Also, rigging the sling for actual target shooting is different than how the sling is rigged for 'display' -
see this site for good info -
Shoot Turner Leather and Biothane, Ron Brown leather sling, and Cotton web here. Turners are an excellent sling, the biothane gets getting used to but no slippage. The cotton has it favors too. If you can try each and pick your choice.
I have two Les Tam's, and two Ron Browns. They both use Herman Oak's strap leather, and hardware from the original USGI supplier. They are indistguishable in terms of quality.
The Les Tam is more personalized with your enitials, and date of manufacture,or service logo and will be custom made after speaking with Mr. Tam. Keepers will be sewn, or brass rivited upon request. Wait time is 3 months. Mr Tam's personal touch is a breath of fresh air in a time of automated customer service. His slings are worth the wait, and every penny.
The Ron Brown can be custom made, but standard lengths are available from Creedmoor Sports for immediate delivery.
The Ron Brown sling keepers are sewn, and sealed.
These slings are the best there is. Get one of each.