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Old October 30th, 2004, 09:56 AM   #1
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Info on Springfield Armory IDF sniper rifles

when did SA market these rifles? I know the receivers are marked differently, but were there any other differences in the rifle? thanks guys

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Old October 30th, 2004, 11:04 AM   #2
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Good questions. I would like to know, too.

I heard that SA made IDF rifles for Israel many years ago. Several years ago, IDF became surplus. SA brought them back to the US and re-assemble them into the special version "IDF Sniper Rifles".

The package I got includes:
1) IDF scope mount (used)
2) Nimrod 6X40 scope (used)
3) Harris bipod (installed, new)
4) Fiberglass stock with cheek piece (new)
5) Real IDF carrying case (used, with some Hebru writing, very cool)
6) Two 10-round mags (new, I am in CA)
7) Ugly CA muzzle brake
8) The rifle, of course. (NM bbl, NM062 front sight, GI rear sight, a lot of GI parts...)

Oops! I typed "8" and ")" and it bacame 8).

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IDF 0X8

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Old October 30th, 2004, 08:06 PM   #3
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the IDF rifles were real M14 rifles. SA imported these rifles as parts kits. they built these parts kits onto their own reciever. they made these guns with specially numbered receivers.

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Old October 30th, 2004, 09:16 PM   #4
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sv_sniper,

How do you like your IDF scope mount and Nimrod 6X40 scope?

Give us a review please.

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Old October 30th, 2004, 10:30 PM   #5
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The IDF M1A rifles were a limited production run model in 1999 AFAIK. The M14 sniper rifles were replaced in 1997 by the IDF.

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Old November 1st, 2004, 12:26 AM   #6
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After the Six Day war in 1967 there was a French led weapons embargo placed on Israel. Because of this, Israel had to rely on other suppliers (USA) and started their own weapons development. The US sent 35,000 M14's to Israel in 1973 when the Yom Kippur war broke out. After the Yom Kippur war Israel spec'd every one of the M14's, and the 10,000 best ones were converted to the IDF sniper weapon. The remaining were taken down for parts. The M14 was the Israeli SWS through 1997.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Isr...Forces_History

http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/m14/m14.htm

After Israel opted for the M24 as their new sniper SA brought the weapons back into the country, slapped on a NM barrel, and a new reciever and sold them to people like sv_sniper and myself.

The receiver is marked

US Rifle M1A
Springfield
Armory
IDF
Star of David

Mine has a nubless flash hider, like most of the M1A's sold in the free world. (sorry sv_sniper).

I really like the scope and mount. It is very solid for a single point mount. The scope is very clear, has a built in range finder, and mine returns to zero when removed and replaced. I think the optics on the Nimrod equal some of the better scopes out there today. If you are looking for a fixed power scope, the 6x40 Nimrod is a good deal right now. I know some are being sold for about 300 dollars.

The built up comb on the stock for scope use looks funky, but it does grow on you. It is attached with two screws through the comb into countersunk nuts in the stock comb. It makes for a very solid platform. No worries about the laces coming loose, or getting it in the same position when replacing after removal.



The sling swivels are on the side of the stock. One on the rear of the stock, and the other on the left side. I have not tried shooting with a sling yet. I will try sometime and let you know how it works.









A poor pic of the reticle, it was taken at night looking at a lamp about 10 feet away. You can see the 3 coarse hairs that turn into fine, and the one fully fine one. The range finder is on the bottom of the scope.



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Old November 1st, 2004, 01:07 PM   #7
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Hello Bob: Cool pictures!
Hello JohnnyReb: Here's the review.

General Description: My Nimrod 6X40 scope came with some dings and scratches so that I knew it is used. The image quality through this scope is very clear and no distortion at edge. Also there is an adjustable(movable) sleeve at the front end of scope. I think it should be used to eliminate the sunlight reflection that would expose the sniper location.

There are five target turrets under the cross hair (Please refer to Bob's pic). According to the manual, the "2" stands for 200 meters, the next one is 400 meters...600m...800m... and "10" stands for 1000 meters. The length between target turret and the base line stands for the size of upper body of an adult human. This feature will allow the shooter to estimate range and adjust the elivation knob quickly.

The combination of IDF scope mount and Nimrod scope seems to be pretty solid and consistant. Even though I detach the scope mount then re-attach after cleaning, it goes back to the zero. (This is just my experience.)

Of course, I have experienced some problems.
1) After about 400 rounds, the scope rings got loose. I installed new insert between scope and the rings (the original rubber insert was rotten). Then I locked the ring screws tight. So far so good.

2) When I aim the target over the center of my cross hair, the bullet hits 1" left to the target @ 50 yard. However, I have twisted the windage knob to the limit already. I am not sure what the problems are because the iron sights work fine. (@ 50 yard, I only need to adjust rear sight windage for one click from center.)

I doubt that the scope mount is kind of bended, or the scope has been shocked (they are both used). You guys are experts, please help me with this issue. Will this be eligiable to Springfield's "life time warranty"? :mrgreen:

It's my review so far. sv_sniper out.

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Springfield IDF Rifles

I own one of these fine rifles. I can say that I'm HIGHLY impressed with it's accuracy ( 3/4 MOA @ 200M). What kind of ammo are you shooting :?: My Nimrod is calibrated for M118 Special Ball. I couldn't find this ammo when I bought the rifle. So, I did some research and decided to go with Federal Gold Match 175gr BTHP. This virtually duplicates the "new" M118LR load currently issued to our military snipers. The case my rifle came in has a date of 1996 after all the Hebrew markings. Any idea if the IDF used a wrench for the scope mount :?: Because there is a funny shaped cut out in the case and that's the only thing I can figure out it's for. :?

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Old December 3rd, 2004, 08:41 PM   #9
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Excellent info everyone, I have an opportunity to buy one of these fine shooting sticks, and was wondering what a current market value would be?

Thanks again!

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Old December 3rd, 2004, 08:55 PM   #10
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Hey Templar,
First of all, Welcome Aboard! I used to work with a guy that saw mine, fell in love with it and ordered 1 from the dealer that I bought mine from. I believe he paid close to $2100 for it new. Now mind you, this was a few years ago. I assume that Springfield no longer offers these rifles as they were available for a limited time only. If the rifle is in good condition and the price is right, snatch it up ASAP :!: Good Luck and please keep us posted!

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Old December 3rd, 2004, 09:00 PM   #11
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Thanks 6016.

I had assumed that they were running anywhere from $2500-$3K for them now, depending on condition of course.

Thanks again!!

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Old December 3rd, 2004, 09:08 PM   #12
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Hey Templar,
I would make sure that is has ALL accessories that SA issued them with, such as: the drop case, certificate of authenticity, GI manual, at least 1 GI mag (not sure how many they came with, maybe 2 ?). How many rds have been fired through it :?: Does it have the proper Hebrew markings in the proper places :?: The reason I'm asking you all this, is because I don't want to see a fellow Scotsman get ripped off :) Alba go bragh!

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Old December 3rd, 2004, 09:18 PM   #13
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I have yet to see the rifle, but it is in the hands of someone I know and have trusted for years.

He tells me it comes with the Nimrod scope, the drop bag, bipod, the special stock, and certificate of authenticity.

I've been selling guns for a living for the past 17 years, and my main area is military style semi's and NFA stuff, just wasn't as up to speed on these as I wanted to be.

I remember them being advertised several years ago and never picked one up.

This one is basically falling into my lap. I'll go see it one week from now, I have a deposit on it to lock me into it, but the rifle is about 150 miles away from me.

If/when I pick it up, I'll take some pictures and post them.

Thanks again, from one Scot to another!

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Old December 4th, 2004, 08:05 AM   #14
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i believe you can find 2 for sale at citadel safe in lasvegas nv

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Old December 10th, 2004, 08:33 PM   #15
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Picked it up today. Rifle is in excellent shape, hardly used at all.

The scope has definitely seen some serious service.....makes you think about who has looked through that lens, what they saw, and if they pulled that trigger. Optics are excellent, the lenses are good and clear, but the scope body's finish is worn.









The serial # is IDF 067. Different, feel free to include it in your records.

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