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Old May 11th, 2017, 01:54 PM   #1
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What's Your Preference?

Just getting started on acquiring USGI parts for another M14 build. Due to budget constraints it will be a long process. Probably be looking for NOS or at least like new to excellent parts.

I was just curious how others approach their parts acquisition. Do you start with a receiver and then acquire your parts or vice versus?

I know some go to extremes and look for NIW from one USGI manufacturer. Others may just like good mix-masters.

Anyway, I want to here your preferences.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 02:02 PM   #2
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I have no interest in collectibles, so I take whatever GI or Bula parts I can get, as long as they're good parts. Mix and match until my heart's content. I follow no particular order to obtain them though.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 02:07 PM   #3
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I have no interest in collectibles, so I take whatever GI or Bula parts I can get, as long as they're good parts. Mix and match until my heart's content. I follow no particular order to obtain them though.
+1 if it looks right and shoots good thats my criteria.

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I prefer to have the receiver in my hands fairly early in the process, just because it's the only part you have to sign your name for at the FFL, and if you don't have a receiver you don't have a rifle. Bird in the hand kind of thing.

The rest of the parts, just be patient and jump on deals when you find them. Also keep in mind you are starting down a tough road, USGI parts are becoming more rare and more expensive. Sometimes, if you see a USGI part you need but the price makes you wince a bit, it may turn out it's the last time you will see that part for years, or maybe ever.

Last time that happened to me, it was new in the tube USGI Springfield Armory barrels at Ohio Ordnance Works. I paid more than I wished I had to, hands were sweaty and shaking, but I ordered 2. Now I have them, and they may never be available again.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 02:20 PM   #5
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M14vrp,

Do one of each!
A mixer & a single manufacturer.

And then one of each manufacturer: Win, SA, TRW, etc...

And maybe two of each, set one for shooting, set two for pristine display.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 02:42 PM   #6
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GI parts are not cheap anymore - they have entered the realm of collectible parts. Until BULA came along with their milspec parts, GI was the preferred option over non-pedigreed commercial parts. For a long time sub-standard aftermarket parts from vendors around the world were no equal to GI parts quality. BULA and specialty high-quality parts manufacturers may equal or exceed GI quality these days and remove the stigma of using commercially available "aftermarket" parts because now there are viable options. If I had a REAL M14, the collector in me would insist on GI replacement parts. I do not have a REAL M14. Now, for a "shooter" M14 platform rifle, equivalent non-original quality part(s) are available. How can one have an "all Winchester M14 build" w/o an original M14 Winchester receiver? Some people deceive themselves. "It's all original - except for the non-original part(s)." Or, "It's all matching - except for (fill in the blank)". "All original" means just that, all original as it left the arsenal for the first time. No rebuilds and no repairs. "All matching" means just that. We have let our descriptive language get sloppy. Buy or assemble what you want - it's all good. But please, just be accurate in your description of it.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #7
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Mix em up. I would guess majority of my herd ,30 strong, is made up using mostly USGI parts. Many of my rifles were put together using kits by mfg picked up when they were cheap and available. Since Bula is making almost all the parts needed to assemble a weapon these days , I just pick them up and use parts as necessary for my builds.
All my rifles are shooters, and that is what makes the difference to me. They are tools to be used and relied upon to work when needed.
I don't worry if a stock gets scratched from use or the park is rubbed of here and there as long as the item is serviceable.

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I have several m14 type rifles in which I have replaced as many parts as possible with GI. I never needed to, but I did, slowly as I could afford/find the parts.

Parts first! especially if you're trying to find NOS and high quality used parts. Don't rule out a repark if you find serviceable, finish worn parts. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

I think like nfe1 in that I don't care if all the finish is the same or the stock takes a lick or two, I shoot these things!

I'm not done with this addiction. As I move forward and GI parts become more spendy and less available, parts from companies like BULA will become more and more attractive, if not the only option, and from what I hear, they are doing a fine job.

I'm babbling now. Parts first, and unless you have all the right tools, find a barreled action with a properly headspaced bolt and you will be good to go.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 04:19 PM   #9
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Well we all know there are few real M14 receivers to be had and fewer still folks that can afford them, so what do we do? The next best thing which is to find a Quality receiver and start building the rifle you dream of.

I have built one close to 100 percent Winchester M14, all except the receiver and yes I call it my Winchester build. Now if you want to call it something else OK, but to me it is my Winchester M14.

I have two nearly all Springfield Armory M14 rifles, and yes again I call them my S.A. M14 rifles.

I did build one righteous TRW all major parts build and yes again I call it my TRW M14 build.

Maybe I didn't hit the nail on the head but I got damn close.

Here's my advice: build whatever makes you happy, not what someone else thinks as they won't be spending any ones money but yours.

And yes some rifles carry more value than others.

I may still build several more rifles and think maybe I might give JRA another shot at getting a quality welded receiver, maybe a Winchester, S.A.
and a TRW, lord knows I have the parts.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #10
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If your on a budget start with a barreled Bula receiver. Then buy Bula parts as you have the money. Check the PX section here daily as you will find some good deals.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 09:43 PM   #11
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If your on a budget start with a barreled Bula receiver. Then buy Bula parts as you have the money. Check the PX section here daily as you will find some good deals.

A very good suggestion!

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Old May 11th, 2017, 09:50 PM   #12
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It is getting very hard to do a single manufacturer build. I am going for H & R all matching, all NOS/NIW, and I am having real trouble getting some parts. I have had the help of many members here looking, even some friends bought parts on my behalf then sold them to me. Some friends have sold me rare NOS parts they cannot replace. I have a dozen people at least looking for rare parts for me behind the scenes, I couldn't do it without their help. I wouldn't recommend this, it is not a casual pursuit or for the faint of heart, this is for the hardcore. I am 2 years in and it still may never come to fruition, but I will not compromise my vision. It either will get done right, or I will have a pile of fantastic parts.

The 2nd option if it falls through is that I might pursue is a major parts matching NOS build (barrel, op rod, trigger group, bolt), with the rest NOS USGI. This is still pretty hard but deals pop up here and there.

If you are just getting started collecting parts, I'd go with what some describe as an A++++ parts kit, lightly used but excellent parts. If you are going to shoot it, any NOS parts will become used parts immediately so it doesn't really matter. You can always have them reparked after the build. For me, I want an unfired example so I don't plan on shooting it unless there's a real rainy day. That is the only reason I am going to the trouble.

Another route is buy one with partial USGI parts, and swap out what is needed.

Whatever you choose, good luck in your venture!
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