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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:25 PM   #1
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Non flip up butt plate on a m14?

Has anyone seen a a non flip up butt plate stock on a m14? Iwas with a older friend of mine and he brought out his m14 that basically was like my m1 garand in the rear of the stock. I have a m1a and was expecting the flip up butt plate but it didn't have one.
Just wondering if it could be a one off, but it looks like it's not someone trying to make a m14 work in a garand stock.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:39 PM   #2
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The original M14 design used an M1 Garand buttplate. Some of the those stocks are still floating around.

At least one commercial manufacturer has made walnut stocks for the M1A that accept Garand buttplates. Some custom makers as well.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:40 PM   #3
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early m14's had garand type buttplates till change over,now going for about 2-300 bucks.1 in classifieds here or cmp for sale

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Old April 20th, 2017, 09:25 PM   #4
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You can remove the flip up portion of the buttplate as well.

This substantially lightens it.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 09:33 PM   #5
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Substantially lightens it? Removing the flip up portion substantially lightens the rifle ...??

Pardon my skepticism.

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My M1A (walnut stock) with all the cleaning tools in the butt and the hinged butt plate has the center of gravity exactly at the centerline of the loaded magazine. Works out good. Removing the butt plate would shift the CG by a half inch to an inch. Makes a difference shooting off hand.

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It is either an original or copy of the T44E4 stock. Are there any markings on it, to include the barrel channel and under the buttplate? What kind of handguard is on the rifle? What is the heelstamp on the receiver?

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Approximately 15,000 of the early M14 rifles were manufactured with stocks that used the M1 Garand butt plate. They were phased out of production about mid 1960 and most were changed out by early 1961.

There were also a few Springfield M1A rifles produced in the 1980's with commercial stocks that used the M1 butt plate - before Capitan Crunch destroyed 135,000 M14 rifles making Fred's a lot of money selling off the remaining stocks.

I note that the rifle pictured is a real GI M14 and full auto. If it is an early original gun it's either worth a small fortune or a lot of time behind bars depending on whether it is registered.

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Thank you everyone who replied for the history lesson, Iam not a m14 guy minus my commercial Springfield m1a, and when my grandfathers friend showed me this I thought it was strange, took some cell phone pictures and asked the question on here. I don't know if it's full auto or not, I just assumed it was one of those kits you can buy for the look. The owner is a retired police chief and in his 70's and told me he's owned it for about 25 years.
As far as markings on the stock there were none visible when he took it down for me, we didn't take off the butt plate though, and it had a plastic hand guard like my m1a.

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It would be interesting to know the make and serial number.

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Old April 21st, 2017, 06:26 PM   #14
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I wish I could help but all I was interested in was the strange stock on his m1a compared to mine sorry. Maybe when I stop by his house tomorrow to do some work for him, I'll get another look, what should I look for?

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I wish I could help but all I was interested in was the strange stock on his m1a compared to mine sorry. Maybe when I stop by his house tomorrow to do some work for him, I'll get another look, what should I look for?
The heelstamp, of course. Also look to see if there is a dismount notch in the center of the receiver rail, as opposed to the one in the rear of your M1A. If you can take it out of the stock again, take a picture of the rear of the trigger area (sear).

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