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Old April 15th, 2017, 03:59 AM   #46
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I would pass on it . My understanding of the law is " it is illegal to grind file or alter the serial number on any firearm " technically that gun is illegal I believe but I may be wrong I would definitely ask someone at ATFE before I took possesion .

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Old April 15th, 2017, 04:10 AM   #47
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720 ILCS 5/24‑5) (from Ch. 38, par. 24‑5)
Sec. 24‑5. Defacing identification marks of firearms.
(a) Any person who shall knowingly or intentionally change, alter, remove or obliterate the name of the importer's or manufacturer's serial number of any firearm commits a Class 2 felony.
(b) A person who possesses any firearm upon which any such importer's or manufacturer's serial number has been changed, altered, removed or obliterated commits a Class 3 felony.
(c) Nothing in this Section shall prevent a person from making repairs, replacement of parts, or other changes to a firearm if those repairs, replacement of parts, or changes cause the removal of the name of the maker, model, or other marks of identification other than the serial number on the firearm's frame or receiver.
(d) A prosecution for a violation of this Section may be commenced within 6 years after the commission of the offense.
(Source: P.A. 93‑906, eff. 8‑11‑04.)

They way I read this is that it's ok to remove everything else from a firearm except the serial number, either manufacture's or importer's.

So technically that OP's picture of that norinco is legal.

I still wouldn't want it since the heel has now be compromised by being thinner

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Old April 15th, 2017, 05:52 AM   #48
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You should get a professional opinion, but I would pass. What concerns me is posessing an imported firearm without the manufactures name, importer, and location. Maybe you can buy the parts less the receiver, and have them put on a good receiver?

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Old April 15th, 2017, 08:52 AM   #49
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Well I as I stated I passed on the questionable m14 he was only asking $600 on the local gun listing. After viewing a picture the seller stated in a conversation over the phone that $450-500 is all he wanted. I told him that I thought it was now a illegal receiver and I did not want to risk it. Thank you very much.

Today on the same gun listing someone else 50 miles away is now selling the same rifle now for $900
Wow!

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Hello. Oh well, someone else saw a good deal and jumped on it. Smarter than the average bear, I'd say. Back to my popcorn...

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Old April 15th, 2017, 09:46 AM   #51
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Who knows why people do certain things. Was he trying to make the serial lettering more uniform? Did he fancy himself as a novice gunsmith or was he in the process of representing the rifle as something it was not? ATF is pretty strict with regulations, especially serial numbers. This one has too much baggage and endless possibilities for possible blowback. I would walk away.

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Old April 15th, 2017, 09:50 AM   #52
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720 ILCS 5/24‑5) (from Ch. 38, par. 24‑5)
Sec. 24‑5. Defacing identification marks of firearms.
(a) Any person who shall knowingly or intentionally change, alter, remove or obliterate the name of the importer's or manufacturer's serial number of any firearm commits a Class 2 felony.
(b) A person who possesses any firearm upon which any such importer's or manufacturer's serial number has been changed, altered, removed or obliterated commits a Class 3 felony.
(c) Nothing in this Section shall prevent a person from making repairs, replacement of parts, or other changes to a firearm if those repairs, replacement of parts, or changes cause the removal of the name of the maker, model, or other marks of identification other than the serial number on the firearm's frame or receiver.
(d) A prosecution for a violation of this Section may be commenced within 6 years after the commission of the offense.
(Source: P.A. 93‑906, eff. 8‑11‑04.)

The ILCS stands for Illinois Compiled Statutes for unless the M14 an the OP are in Illinois they would not apply


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Old April 17th, 2017, 10:11 AM   #53
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It's evidently legal, but it has removed much of the case hardness of the receiver heel which may result in a dangerous condition that could cause injury to the operator or others around him.

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