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it's a weapon used by the U.S. military? 48 57.83%
of it's shooting capabilities? 35 42.17%
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Old April 13th, 2017, 10:10 PM   #1
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Why did you buy a traditional M14 / M1a?

I'm curious about why you bought the "traditional M14 / M1a" model; in particular, did you buy because it was MORE:

1. a weapon used by the U.S. military? (has memories for you / nostalgia factor, maybe you want to ID with those who used one in the military, it's part of our history)

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2. did you buy it more because of it's shooting capabilities? (accuracy, reliability, good for hunting, fun factor, longevity, long range capability)

If the second reason was more compelling for you, a follow up question: would you have purchased had it not been used by the U.S. military?

I suspect that both played a factor--and maybe other reasons as well--for a lot of folks, but again I'm wondering if one of the reasons was more compelling. No real reason for the question, just curious.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 12:14 AM   #2
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Old April 14th, 2017, 03:07 AM   #3
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The quiz should not have been a one of choice but multiple reasons that did deeper.

For those of us like myself from the Vietnam era many of us have deep set memories of what we could do with the M1/M14 from our boot camp experience and/or time in the service. For example I own and shoot my AR-15 on occasion but to me it will always be a “Mattel toy” rifle. That is the way it was introduced to me and initial impressions die hard. The M14/M1A design on the other hand is the M1 on steroids for me.

Shooting capabilities is an all encompassing phase. You could have added a long list of check boxes. For some people reliability and dependability may be far more important reasons than accuracy.

A big reason for me for choosing the M14/M1A platform is adaptability to tailor it to my specific shooting needs. I am turning 72 this month. My eyes and shooting hand arthritis dictate how I can shoot. I no longer think of shooting much beyond 300 yards these days. So there I am at the range blasting away with my M1A Socom II and loving it. But that doesn’t mean I still don’t shoot my old M1A standard, I do. It still brings back the warm and fuzzy feelings of shooting in the ‘old’ days...

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Old April 14th, 2017, 04:08 AM   #5
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I vote both reasons. It's the first weapon I qualified(expert)with in the service and the fact that it has a great reputation for hard hitting accuracy and dependability. Bought the Springfield model that most closely represents the one I used in uniform.

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I vote both reasons. It's the first weapon I qualified(expert)with in the service and the fact that it has a great reputation for hard hitting accuracy and dependability. Bought the Springfield model that most closely represents the one I used in uniform.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:02 AM   #7
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The M14 clone represents the best available for a self loading or semi auto if you will on the market today. It's not as accurate as a well built bolt rifle, but it's accurate enough to shoot very good scores if the trigger puller is on his game. The triggers and issue sight systems of the foreign offerings** all pale compared to the M14 as well as accuracy from my experience. I happen to prefer the std. length version over the shorter ones for me it represents and American rifle, others I consider carbines. The military past has some attraction but not the primary one for purchase. As much as I like the M14 my nice Remington '03 w/ Unertl scope is a classic American rifle, you could say I am a walnut and steel man.

** Have seen some try shooting matches with FAL's, HK's, etc. and the results were not very good and the Garand would kick their rears on a regular basis, again sight system and trigger.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:17 AM   #8
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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:20 AM   #9
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I bought one because I can't afford areal M14, and NRA High Power Matches . . . in the 1980's it had no equal.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:05 AM   #10
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My reasoning has several layers.

Utmost, it further completes the collection my father started before I was born. He collected shoulder weapons of the Allies from WWI onward. He always wanted one of these rifles. So, by exposure, so did I. I had to complete the lineage. He topped out in 1992 on a mint 1971 Colt SP1 slabside with only two mags shot down it's throat when he got it. He put a Bushmaster 37mm flare launcher on it. Goofy old man...

To me, it represents a weapon my brothers used before I signed up in 1979. I was issued an M16A1.

It was the last of it's kind to be issued; heavy steel and wood. Now it's lightweight polymers and aluminum alloys. Not wrong; just different.

It's loud report let's those on the receiving end know that something hefty is coming your way with a helluva punch.

I've heard/read about it's accuracy. I have since learned it's not a myth.


I never bought it for it's collectable value or resale value because I learned from my Mom when my Dad would claim how much a certain rifle was worth compared to purchase price. She would just say, "They aren't worth a dime !! You will NEVER sell one, so it will NEVER generate money !! Saying what it's worth means nothing unless you sell it !! They'll all go to him (me), and he'll never sell them. So to me, they are worthless.".

She's right. My wife already knows my nephew gets them all. He lived with my parents in his early years and took over weapon cleaning duty from me. He's earned them.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:05 AM   #11
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Neither.

From personal experience, I would not use US military acceptance as a reason to buy anything. From a nostalgia standpoint, it's general issue was extremely short-lived.

As for it's shooting capabilities, it is nothing to write home about in it's original as-issued version. It was designed for minute-of-man accuracy.

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My affection for the M14 lies in it's flaws. It is difficult to carry, shoot, operate and maintain. It requires training, dedication and skill. Simply put, it is a "rifleman's rifle." Long enough for proper use of a bayonet and sturdy enough for a butt stroke.

Any idiot can effectively carry, shoot and maintain an AR or AK. Just look around.

A person with an AK is automatically a "bad guy." One with an AR is the "lunatic or wanna-be." The one with the M14, however, is the "good guy." It commands respect, whether on guard, on the range or in the field.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:12 AM   #12
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Is it because I grew up in a museum and love the older things? Maybe
Is it because the 7.62x51 is a great round? Maybe
Is it because it it extremely modifiable? Maybe
Is it because it is a military rifle? Maybe
Maybe it's all of the above. Maybe it's how my brain is wired and how my life experiences shaped what I like.

Why do I like a certain sized woman with certain hair colors? Don't know. What I like doesn't match my mother, so that's out.

I think it just boils down to what should be option 3. The M14 just fits my personality.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:24 AM   #13
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It has the best lines of any rifle I have ever seen.
As soon as I saw it I had to have one. There is just something about that piston on the bottom of the barrel.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:48 AM   #14
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A person with an AK is automatically a "bad guy." One with an AR is the "lunatic or wanna-be." The one with the M14, however, is the "good guy." It commands respect, whether on guard, on the range or in the field.
I don't know exactly how true any of this is... but it's fine by me!

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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:54 AM   #15
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Complicated question with a simple answer.

In Canada the Chinese and US clones if the genuine M14 rifles are NOT RESTRICTED, and also are by far the LEAST EXPENISIVE SEMI AUTO FULL POWERED BATTLE RIFLE available.
This makes them the BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK for us Canucks.

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