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Old April 5th, 2017, 05:57 PM   #1
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M14 Back In The Rotation??

Ran across this article that seems to imply that the M14 will be back in action, at least for the time being. Seems the Army feels that 5.56 rounds just do not have enough oomph for the job.

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/04/05...ifle/#comments

Back to the Future once again.

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Old April 5th, 2017, 06:14 PM   #2
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well,this mid east conflict area has created an slight problem. short m4 works great in the house to house searches and conflicts in towns.it also is deficient in long distance encounters using the short rifle. 20 inch bbl is better,but the 308 long barrel makes the projectile carrie better.

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Old April 5th, 2017, 06:21 PM   #3
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They try to get rid of it but the fact of the matter is it's the best battle rifle ever made. Is it for everyone no but for the guys that don't mind the extra pounds and the added range and power there is not a better replacement. AR 10 yea maybe but it is heavy too, and it isn't as reliable as our ole girl.

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I did not mind the extra weight at all. It's not heavy, the ammo is what gets you. But compared to the SAW its a breeze. Oh, I love the SAW too. Carried it till 1SG took it away, then begged for it back a couple weeks later.


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They try to get rid of it but the fact of the matter is it's the best battle rifle ever made. Is it for everyone no but for the guys that don't mind the extra pounds and the added range and power there is not a better replacement. AR 10 yea maybe but it is heavy too, and it isn't as reliable as our ole girl.

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I did not mind the extra weight at all. It's not heavy, the ammo is what gets you. But compared to the SAW its a breeze. Oh, I love the SAW too. Carried it till 1SG took it away, then begged for it back a couple weeks later.
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Old April 5th, 2017, 08:40 PM   #6
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it's not heavy,it's my hernia

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Not the first time that something "old" would be "new" again...

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Old April 6th, 2017, 08:54 AM   #8
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The M14,
it is like an M4
but for men.

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I never have been able to figure out why the military adopted a 300 meter poodle shooter, then changed it to a 800 meter poodle shooter, then switch back to a 300 meter M4 Carbine... poodle shooter. Meanwhile, the M14 soldiers on. When I went to the first Gulf War there were M14 rifles in use and they are still in use. I'm not fond of the EBR types though. I wouldn't want to lug a 16 pound rifle in 140 degree heat.

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Army Considers Bringing Battle Rifles Back To War

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/0...fles-back-war/

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For the first time since the M14 was issued in the early days of the Vietnam War, the U.S. Army is giving serious consideration to bringing the battle rifle back to war.
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I never have been able to figure out why the military adopted a 300 meter poodle shooter, then changed it to a 800 meter poodle shooter, then switch back to a 300 meter M4 Carbine... poodle shooter.
Ted, Well that's not exactly correct. Only the Mk12 SPR with Mk 262 ammo is truly capable of shooting accurately out to 800m. I'm defining "accurate" as being able to hold an E-type target. An M16 shooting M855 or M855A1 ammo is really only accurate to 400m. Now an M4A1 carbine with an ACOG sight using Mk 262 ammo will be accurate out to 700m. It's partly the rifle but, in this case, it's more the ammo. Rick

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seems to me they could save a lot of time and effort, not to mention money, if they would just bring the M14 back into production. A scout or the 19.25" barrel would cut a little weight and still be danged effective.

And while we're on the subject of weight, why can't our infantry carry something like an M14? Are the physical requirements not what they used to be? I shot someone's M4 last week and I couldn't shoot anywhere near what I can with even my 16. It felt like I was holding a BB gun and the trigger was crappy.

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They try to get rid of it but the fact of the matter is it's the best battle rifle ever made. Is it for everyone no but for the guys that don't mind the extra pounds and the added range and power there is not a better replacement. AR 10 yea maybe but it is heavy too, and it isn't as reliable as our ole girl.
Don't forget it was John Mcnamera who ordered production stopped and then got rid of the tooling for it, and even closed Springfield Armory. When I was at Ft. Hood in '74, I knew a quite a few Army nco's who used it in their first tours in Vietnam and cursed the mouse gun on their second tours. -Lloyd

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My dad toted one around Vietnam for a couple years.

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