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Old March 11th, 2017, 04:53 PM   #1
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M14 Day One A Few Lessons Learned.

Well took some time with my SAI M1A and learned a few things.

#1. It's really hard not to say, "This is my rifle there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend".

#2. I love the smell of Frog Lube in the morning.

Okay time to get serious.

#3. Cleaning and inspection is pretty important. Turns out my rifle would have failed both tilt tests. So broke it down almost completely to clean and lube everything. The roller on the bolt was very gritty and packing grease into that made a world of difference.

#4. If your op-rod guide spring seems to make to much noise or sound like its binding up double check that your op-rod is seated all the way.

#5. Springfield seems to use a ball detent on the windage knob, unlike other sights (At least to my knowledge). Its located in the receiver with a spring so look for it when you take the knob off. Since mine had fallen out of the receiver at some point, when I went to rebuild the sight I failed to get a click on the windage knob. Two hours later and after watching tonyben's videos about five times I did a search to find out about the ball detent. I don't blame tonyben at all since he is using LRB recivers. Springfield Armory didn't even have it shown in the exploded diagram in the manual either, which would be nice. Found out its a 3/32" ball so I knew exactly where to get one. Stopped at the local hardware store and struck out there except for the good bottle of Birch Beer. Ran to a local hobby store and picked up a 8 pack for a few dollars. Being an old RC car racer as a kid came in handy. Rebuilt my sight and got it working.

#6. If you are having trouble getting the trigger guard to move with the hammer when reassembling the trigger group to check function try doing it the other way. I reassembled it I don't know how many times and then realized that I was doing it correctly because I could move the trigger guard if I pressed on the hammer. tonyben may have mentioned that in one of his videos, I was bouncing back and forth between the Complete Lubrication video and the Complete Disassembly And Reassembly video. The trigger group is new and very tight, that may have something to do with it as well.

#7. I owe tonyben a six pack or keep him in some 7.62 NATO brass.

Rifle is back together and might get out to the range tomorrow.

P.S. If your new the forums and have not seen tonyben's youtube videos on the M14 they are required viewing for any new owner.

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Old March 11th, 2017, 05:04 PM   #2
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Well took some time with my SAI M1A and learned a few things.

#1. It's really hard not to say, "This is my rifle there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend".

#2. I love the smell of Frog Lube in the morning.

Okay time to get serious.

#3. Cleaning and inspection is pretty important. Turns out my rifle would have failed both tilt tests. So broke it down almost completely to clean and lube everything. The roller on the bolt was very gritty and packing grease into that made a world of difference.

#4. If your op-rod guide spring seems to make to much noise or sound like its binding up double check that your op-rod is seated all the way.

#5. Springfield seems to use a ball detent on the windage knob, unlike other sights (At least to my knowledge). Its located in the receiver with a spring so look for it when you take the knob off. Since mine had fallen out of the receiver at some point, when I went to rebuild the sight I failed to get a click on the windage knob. Two hours later and after watching tonyben's videos about five times I did a search to find out about the ball detent. I don't blame tonyben at all since he is using LRB recivers. Springfield Armory didn't even have it shown in the exploded diagram in the manual either, which would be nice. Found out its a 3/32" ball so I knew exactly where to get one. Stopped at the local hardware store and struck out there except for the good bottle of Birch Beer. Ran to a local hobby store and picked up a 8 pack for a few dollars. Being an old RC car racer as a kid came in handy. Rebuilt my sight and got it working.

#6. If you are having trouble getting the trigger guard to move with the hammer when reassembling the trigger group to check function try doing it the other way. I reassembled it I don't know how many times and then realized that I was doing it correctly because I could move the trigger guard if I pressed on the hammer. tonyben may have mentioned that in one of his videos, I was bouncing back and forth between the Complete Lubrication video and the Complete Disassembly And Reassembly video. The trigger group is new and very tight, that may have something to do with it as well.

#7. I owe tonyben a six pack or keep him in some 7.62 NATO brass.

Rifle is back together and might get out to the range tomorrow.

P.S. If your new the forums and have not seen tonyben's youtube videos on the M14 they are required viewing for any new owner.
Welcome to the cult. I am still somewhat of an acolyte myself.

I took note of your point #3 above. When I first shot my M1A I had failures to feed every 5-10 rounds. Didn't know what to think; it shot very accurately but had the failures to feed. Got it home and thoroughly broke it down and cleaned/greased it. Flawless performance since then.

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I like my Norinco M14S pre 1989 ban, performs flawlessly. But then I did take it apart except for the trigger group and cleaned it up and lubed it properly. I would expect more from Springfield with a new MIA and their retail prices.

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I like my Norinco M14S pre 1989 ban, performs flawlessly. But then I did take it apart except for the trigger group and cleaned it up and lubed it properly. I would expect more from Springfield with a new MIA and their retail prices.
I am sure I made it sound worse then it really was. The tilt test failures were pretty minimal. The bolt just failed to fully lock into place. The gas piston would move about a quarter of an inch and stop, just touching it would get the piston to move.

I am sure when all the companies were trying to produce the M-14 these small issues would not of stopped it from getting into the hands of some G.I.

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I am sure I made it sound worse then it really was. The tilt test failures were pretty minimal. The bolt just failed to fully lock into place. The gas piston would move about a quarter of an inch and stop, just touching it would get the piston to move.

I am sure when all the companies were trying to produce the M-14 these small issues would not of stopped it from getting into the hands of some G.I.
Clean the gas tube with some solvent and brush and check the piston and clean it. You may just have some break in debris blocking one of the gas ports.

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Welcome to the forum. i am sure that you will find the knowledge and experience from the forum very helpful. i have received some expert advice since joining and can't tell how helpful tonyBen's videos have been to me. Keep shooting and and keep your powder dry!

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